*** Quoting Maurice Kinal from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS> stuff i am talking about is pretty decent.

MK> I've never seen those and in fact this is the first I even heard of th
MK>  Interesting.

Yeah.  Now if they also came in a version that didnt add sugar, I'd like'em ¨better.


MK> I guess so.  Right now I'd have problems adapting to where I came from
MK>  I shiver just thinking about it even on 'hot' days.  It never used to
MK> be that way and often I worked in temps below or around -30C.  Beats m
MK> how I survived that since I seriously doubt I could now.  I don't miss

You'd adapt again if you had to.  Me, too many years of warm places and I'd
be ¨slower by far to adapt to that.

 CS> Grin, we have those except you have to suck on the tube (it isnt 
 CS> automatically sent into your mouth).  They are called 'camel backs' 

MK> Sounds like something along the lines of what I was thinking except I'
MK> go for a larger model.  1.5 litres is around the size of a large plast
MK> pop container and I can easily suck one of those back in short order o
MK> a hot day.  I think about 10 litres made out of lighweight insulated m
MK> would be more in line.  A tad heavy when filled but it could go the di
MK> if I were dealing with above 30C temps all day.  It would get lighter
MK> fast enough methinks.

Naw, that would be too big for real use every day at work like these are. 
They ¨take breaks and refill at need and the larger ones hold 1/2 gallon at
the ¨least.


 CS> I think we are slightly under that with the rare cold snap that can 
 CS> take us to -10C (rare event).

MK> Same here.  It has been known to happen though but like you say rare.

Yup.  Moderate temps is where you are.


 CS> Ah here folks commonly bicycle to work in all seasons so the drivers 
 CS> are used to it and watch out well.  It helps that the bikers also 
 CS> keep their eyes out and follow the rules of the road, stopping at 
 CS> stop signs and all that.

MK> Asia is good for that.  With oil prices being what they are perhaps NA
MK> will tune into that ideology.  I'd go along with that without complain
MK>  Too many idiotic drivers around these parts with HUGE honkin' SUV's t
MK> they need like I need one.  What a total waste of money methinks.  Bea
MK> me who that impresses but I doubt anyone with half a brain.

I've seen so many SUV's stateside!  WOW!  We have'em in Japan too but most
are ¨smaller sized versions.  We also have mini-cars which get 80MPG or
better and ¨are more common than SUV's by far.

                                       xxcarol

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