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to: Roger Scudder
from: Bo Simonsen
date: 2003-09-21 17:55:12
subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: More

Hello Roger!

*** 20.09.2003 at 14:24, Roger Scudder wrote to All:

 >> I'm driking coffee right now. But back on topic

 RS>  That is my point, we never were on topic.

Oh well, I don't agree, I think we are quite mutch on topic.. Actually a
bit on topic, why don't you use FTN software for writing in this echo?

 >>    * .NET apps isn't portable to other operating systems (other than
 RS> MS's),
 >>      Java is that..

 RS> That is not true.  Just like Java, the only requirement is a port
 RS> of the VM.

Yes it's portable but Microsoft doesn't do a thing..

 RS> Look into the MONO project.

Yeah I've watched it.

 >>    * .NET is not based on open standards (afaik).

 RS> The C# language has been submitted for standardization.

It's also written by Anders Hejlsberg (a dane) afair.

 RS> As Jerry has pointed out.  Java is not, and probably never will be,
 RS> submitted for standardization.

But how about ASP.NET etc is it also submitted for standardization?

 >>    * .NET is making redudant code (4th generation of programming
 RS> language).

 RS>  I take it that you have not worked as a staff programmer in a fast
 RS> paced corporate environment within the last 3 or 4 years.  The days
 RS> of the career programmer working on a same project for years are
 RS> long gone. 

I've do in my spare time, but I bet it's not good enough.

 RS> Software development cycles have become very short
 RS> because of fierce competition.  In these environments, 4th
 RS> generation languages are a requirement for survival.

Well if your _software engeneering_ is good enought, it doesn't matter if
you implement it in C++ or whatever. It's what people learn in Collage.

 RS>  .NET is not just about some programming language.  It is about a
 RS> comprehensive strategy for enabling businesses to thrive in very
 RS> difficult competitive environments.

If you believe in Microshaft yes.

 >> There might be more :)

 RS> More what? :)

Arguments..

Regards,
        Bo

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