From: Ellen K. 

Oops, make that firefighters' (not firefighter's).

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:06:05 -0800, Ellen K.
 wrote in message
:

>1.  He didn't control his mouth.  Calling nurses a "special interest"
>was over the top.
>
>2.  Insufficient attention to detail.  He had another proposition that
>would have changed public employee retirement plans from defined-benefit
>to something like a 401(k), but it wasn't properly edited and was found
>to include the result that firefighter's widows and orphans wouldn't
>have gotten death benefits.
>
>3.  He assumed that because he was elected in a recall and that many of
>California's more sensible laws were enacted by referendum, he could get
>his agenda passed by referendum too.  Californians like referenda when
>they spring from the grass roots, but retain enough of an Old West
>sensibility to resist someone in the power structure trying to
>manipulate them.
>
>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:58:45 -0500, "Gary Britt"
> wrote in message :
>
>>I was really disappointed in the defeat of Arnie's 4 ballot propositions.
>>Especially the one that would have put one man one vote back into the state
>>legislature.  What did Arnie do in your opinion to screw this all up?
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>>news:img9n1ldtjs80h9s172gjio90guf6n0r7s{at}4ax.com...
>>> Schwarzenegger got clobbered this week.  I think it was his own fault.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:33:16 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>>>  wrote in message
:
>>>
>>> >I went to the link.  I agree with several things he
writes, and not with
>>> >several others.  I do agree that it does seem that many
Republicans have
>>> >lost their way in Congress.  I agree that if Republicans try to out
>>democrat
>>> >the democrats that they will not be successful, because
the Republican
>>base
>>> >believes in values like loyalty and consequences for poor
results.  I
>>agree
>>> >that the Republicans are blowing it on ANWR, and I
especially agree they
>>> >failed to use the gas prices to steam roll some rational
energy policies
>>> >through congress that should have been passed, but they
didn't completely
>>> >blow it in this arena.  They did a horrible job educating
the public on
>>the
>>> >paper non-cash inventory profits that will disappear on paper as oil
>>prices
>>> >fall.  I don't agree, at least not yet, that the GOP is in
trouble for
>>2006,
>>> >but they could be.  The GOP needs its base energized and ready to
>>turn-out.
>>> >Low turn-out will hurt the GOP unlike the CW on the subject.  If
>>Republicans
>>> >don't learn to stand up for a philosophy of government
that is different,
>>> >materially different from the democrats, their base won't
turn out in
>>> >sufficient numbers to keep them in office.
>>> >
>>> >Gary
>>> >
>>> >"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>>> >news:nk07n19ico4a2qpf2ht0bg74estj3cgtr3{at}4ax.com...
>>> >> ...has left the building.  Can Dagny be far behind?
>>> >>
>>> >> http://bidinotto.journalspace.com/?entryid=312
>>> >> Okay, I have had it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not a damned thing distinguishes the Republicans from
the Democrats
>>> >> anymore...not a damned thing. "No Child Left
Behind" in essence, and
>>> >> unconstitutionally, federalized education. The
GOP-engineered federal
>>> >> prescription drug subsidy program for seniors was
another huge and
>>> >> costly step toward total socialized medicine. The
Administration's
>>> >> response to recent natural disasters -- here and
abroad -- establishes
>>> >> the premise of federalizing all local emergencies globally, and
>>> >> reducing the U.S. military into becoming the
logistics wing of the
>>> >> International Red Cross.
>>> >>
>>> >> And so on, and so on.
>>> >
>>>
>>

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