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to: Gary Britt
from: Ellen K.
date: 2005-11-12 22:06:04
subject: Re: John Galt...

From: Ellen K. 

1.  He didn't control his mouth.  Calling nurses a "special
interest" was over the top.

2.  Insufficient attention to detail.  He had another proposition that
would have changed public employee retirement plans from defined-benefit to
something like a 401(k), but it wasn't properly edited and was found to
include the result that firefighter's widows and orphans wouldn't have
gotten death benefits.

3.  He assumed that because he was elected in a recall and that many of
California's more sensible laws were enacted by referendum, he could get
his agenda passed by referendum too.  Californians like referenda when they
spring from the grass roots, but retain enough of an Old West sensibility
to resist someone in the power structure trying to manipulate them.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:58:45 -0500, "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message :

>I was really disappointed in the defeat of Arnie's 4 ballot propositions.
>Especially the one that would have put one man one vote back into the state
>legislature.  What did Arnie do in your opinion to screw this all up?
>
>Gary
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:img9n1ldtjs80h9s172gjio90guf6n0r7s{at}4ax.com...
>> Schwarzenegger got clobbered this week.  I think it was his own fault.
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:33:16 -0500, "Gary Britt"
>>  wrote in message
:
>>
>> >I went to the link.  I agree with several things he writes, and not with
>> >several others.  I do agree that it does seem that many Republicans have
>> >lost their way in Congress.  I agree that if Republicans try to out
>democrat
>> >the democrats that they will not be successful, because the Republican
>base
>> >believes in values like loyalty and consequences for poor results.  I
>agree
>> >that the Republicans are blowing it on ANWR, and I especially agree they
>> >failed to use the gas prices to steam roll some rational energy policies
>> >through congress that should have been passed, but they didn't
completely
>> >blow it in this arena.  They did a horrible job educating the public on
>the
>> >paper non-cash inventory profits that will disappear on paper as oil
>prices
>> >fall.  I don't agree, at least not yet, that the GOP is in trouble for
>2006,
>> >but they could be.  The GOP needs its base energized and ready to
>turn-out.
>> >Low turn-out will hurt the GOP unlike the CW on the subject.  If
>Republicans
>> >don't learn to stand up for a philosophy of government that is
different,
>> >materially different from the democrats, their base won't turn out in
>> >sufficient numbers to keep them in office.
>> >
>> >Gary
>> >
>> >"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>> >news:nk07n19ico4a2qpf2ht0bg74estj3cgtr3{at}4ax.com...
>> >> ...has left the building.  Can Dagny be far behind?
>> >>
>> >> http://bidinotto.journalspace.com/?entryid=312
>> >> Okay, I have had it.
>> >>
>> >> Not a damned thing distinguishes the Republicans from the Democrats
>> >> anymore...not a damned thing. "No Child Left
Behind" in essence, and
>> >> unconstitutionally, federalized education. The
GOP-engineered federal
>> >> prescription drug subsidy program for seniors was another huge and
>> >> costly step toward total socialized medicine. The Administration's
>> >> response to recent natural disasters -- here and abroad
-- establishes
>> >> the premise of federalizing all local emergencies globally, and
>> >> reducing the U.S. military into becoming the logistics wing of the
>> >> International Red Cross.
>> >>
>> >> And so on, and so on.
>> >
>>
>

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