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to: John Beckett
from: Ellen K.
date: 2005-11-12 21:46:34
subject: Re: Vatican: Faithful Should Listen to Science

From: Ellen K. 

Everything G-d does is good.  However, there is good in a revealed way (the
crops have rain) and good in a concealed way (drought).

Imagine a people who live in a jungle with no exposure to the modern
scientific world.  They have developed some simple tools.  They eat plants
that grow in the jungle and have also learned how to kill animals for meat
and fur, using sharpened rocks or sticks.  Now imagine one of these people
suddenly finds himself in the operating room of a modern hospital, as an
observer.  When he sees the surgeon cutting the patient, he will think he
is killing him, but in fact the surgeon is saving the patient's life.

We are like that jungle person, and I certainly include myself.  I
certainly don't immediately see good when I think about 9/11, but I trust
that at some point in the future the good will be revealed.

Some would already say 9/11 was good because it woke up the world to
militant Islamism.


On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:09:22 +1100, John Beckett
 wrote in message
:

>What I don't like about the "God's plan" reasoning is that it prevents
>anything from ever being wrong. Did anyone here say that 9/11 was bad? How
>could you, knowing that it's part of God's plan?
>
>If it ever makes sense to thank God when the crops have rain, then it also
>makes sense to curse God when there is a drought.

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