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to: John Beckett
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-11-13 00:29:06
subject: Re: Vatican: Faithful Should Listen to Science

From: "Robert Comer" 

> What I don't like about the "God's plan" reasoning is that it prevents
> anything from ever being wrong. Did anyone here say that 9/11 was bad? How
> could you, knowing that it's part of God's plan?

I can understand that but don't agree, on an individual level as long as we
still have free will (maybe we don't, but that's another argument) we can
be wrong, and in that wrong we can impede God's plan for us -- in fact, we
can turn away from it altogether.

>Did anyone here say that 9/11 was bad? How
> could you, knowing that it's part of God's plan?

Within what I know, 9/11 was bad -- the people that died there died.  How
do you know that it's not God's plan that the bad be seen and to be strived
against?

> If it ever makes sense to thank God when the crops have rain, then it also
> makes sense to curse God when there is a drought.

That's a personal decision we all have to make, but cursing (or just
blaming) God isn't for me.

--
Bob Comer


"John Beckett"  wrote
in message news:9hedn15tpfmsrf7qsngklud8b1sruptmh6{at}4ax.com...
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news::
>> I know I'm not going to say this well enough in a couple of short
>> paragraphs, but I'll try: The religious explanation, is that it really is
>> God's plan and these instances are all leading to the better good. I know
>> it
>> seems to come up short on a personal level, but we really don't have the
>> big
>> picture in mind.  As an example of a bad thing turning good, look at
>> someone's great hardship, say Katrina victums from this year -- it caused
>> a
>> great outpuring of support and love from a great deal of people, and if
>> some
>> of that support and love pours out to other less spetacular areas, things
>> are going to get noticed that weren't noticed before, things that needed
>> to
>> be done.
>
> What I don't like about the "God's plan" reasoning is that it prevents
> anything from ever being wrong. Did anyone here say that 9/11 was bad? How
> could you, knowing that it's part of God's plan?
>
> If it ever makes sense to thank God when the crops have rain, then it also
> makes sense to curse God when there is a drought.
>
> John
>
>
>

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