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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-11-12 17:56:26
subject: Re: Vatican: Faithful Should Listen to Science

From: Robert Comer 

 > First you'd have to tell me what a mobius loop is.  Fundamentally however a
 > loop has width and height 2 dimensions not one.

Not a true mobius loop. (or strip, which is the common name.)  

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae401.cfm

- Bob Comer


Gary Britt wrote:
> First you'd have to tell me what a mobius loop is.  Fundamentally however a
> loop has width and height 2 dimensions not one.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:43763d9a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>>>I have a hard time with fundamental strings being described as a loop
>
> when
>
>>>they are one dimensional.
>>
>>Think of a mobius loop. (only really)  It's actually quite logical.
>>
>>--
>>Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>news:43762c69$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>Interesting stuff.  Thanks for the links.  Not sure I buy it however.
>
> I'm
>
>>>not persuaded there are 10 dimensions just by the fact that
>
> mathematicians
>
>>>can create formula's that "supposedly" describe more
than 3 spatial
>>>dimensions.  You could create lots of formulas that purport to describe
>>>things that don't really exist.  Sort of like statistics can describe
>
> lots
>
>>>of things that aren't true.
>>>
>>>I have a hard time with fundamental strings being described as a loop
>
> when
>
>>>they are one dimensional.  Also, how long are one dimensional strings
>
> and
>
>>>are they all the same size?
>>>
>>>If string theory is correct then in a sense all of the universe is a
>
> song
>
>>>played by God.
>>>
>>>A last thought:  Just because things with more energy have more mass and
>>>vice versa doesn't necessarily mean that a string with a higher
>>>vibrational
>>>frequency has more mass.  Look at the cotton string at the link.  As its
>>>frequency increases from 1/2 wave to 1 and 1/2 waves its mass wouldn't
>>>change....right?
>>>
>>>Gary
>>>
>>>"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>>news:43754b19{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>>>"Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>news:43754503$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, the strings in string theory are floating
in spacetime,
>
> they
>
>>>>>aren't
>>>>>
>>>>>>tied down to a guitar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So what gets them excited/what does the stretching?  Pictures of
>
> Pamela
>
>>>>>Anderson and Tommy Lee??
>>>>>
>>>>>Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Gee I was worried you were going to ask what the other 6 or 7
>
> dimensions
>
>>>>were ( I don't know ). The one dimensional part of s string
 should be
>>>
>>>easy
>>>
>>>>to imagine - think of Bush ( sorry couldn't resist )
>>>>
>>>>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/resonance.html
>>>>Just like the cotton string, the line of energy that forms the
>>>
>>>"fundamental
>>>
>>>>string" in string theory also has resonant vibrations,
as illustrated
>
> on
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>right side of the screen above. With the strings in string theory,
>>>
>>>however,
>>>
>>>>the vibrational pattern determines what kind of particle
the string is.
>>>
>>>One
>>>
>>>>resonant pattern makes it a photon, for example, while
another makes it
>
> a
>
>>>>heavy particle found within the nucleus of an atom.
>>>>
>>>>.......
>>>>
>>>>Although the fundamental string shown above is depicted as a
>>>
>>>two-dimensional
>>>
>>>>object, the strings in string theory are one-dimensional.
Furthermore,
>>>>the
>>>>mathematics describing the strings requires not one or two
but 10 or 11
>>>>dimensions. Confused? To see how mathematicians can easily
work in more
>>>
>>>than
>>>
>>>>three spatial dimensions, see Multidimensional Math.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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