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to: Ellen K.
from: Adam
date: 2005-11-14 07:20:16
subject: Re: Vatican: Faithful Should Listen to Science

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Ellen K. wrote:
> No, G-d did not "come about", being above time there is no
"before G-d".
>

How usefull.

Maybe then the universe did not come about either & it's just an
endless cycle of big bang & big crunch with evolution & life simply
being one of it's forces much like gravity, inter-atomic forces &
magnetism etc.

No need for God at all in that case.

Adam

> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:36:07 +0000, Adam
> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
> message :
>
>
>>Ellen K. wrote:
>>
>>>You are anthropomorphizing G-d... making Him just like a person only
>>>more.   While it is a normal human tendency to explain things in human
>>>terms, in this case it is wrong.
>>>
>>
>>Rubbish. That is the old "oh but God is so far from your understanding
>>that you will just have to accept" bullsh*t that died in the
enlightenment.
>>
>>The ID fallacy depends for it's pseudo-logic upon the central concept
>>that something complex (such as an eye or a person) can not just come
>>about but must be created/designed etc.
>>
>>However it appears that central conept is flawed in that it would appear
>>that the very same people then go onto declare that something as complex
>>etc as God did just come about & was not created/designed.
>>

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