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echo: barktopus
to: Adam
from: Ellen K.
date: 2005-11-14 18:15:24
subject: Re: Vatican: Faithful Should Listen to Science

From: Ellen K. 

So what living thing have scientists ever made from non-living things so far?

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:25:03 +0000, Adam
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
message :

>Ellen K. wrote:
>> No, a living thing comes from Something.
>>
>
>Why is that? If life is an organizing force then all that is required is
>some raw material any much like gravity + hydrogen gas can make
>something as massive & complex as a star & then that can go on to make
>planets & elements in the periodic table etc.
>
>Adam
>
>
>
>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:36:43 +0000, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote in
>> message :
>>
>>
>>>Ellen K. wrote:
>>>
>>>>No.  Something from Nothing.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Just like an eye or a person or any other living thing. No need for an
>>>ID then.
>>>
>>>Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:28:03 +0000, Adam
>>>><""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>>>message :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Along with what ID created the ID.
>>>>>
>>>>>& then What ID created the ID who created the ID
who created the ID
>>>>>
>>>>>etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>Heck there is no way a omnipotentent omniscent being
could just "spring
>>>>>into life"...that's much more complex than an eye
or a human & it's just
>>>>>too unlikely so there must have been an ID for the ID.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>Geo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you admitting that this is an unanswered question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Geo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>news:437170da$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It might have been an intelligent hand that
created gravity and the
other
>>>>>>>laws of the universe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Geo"  wrote
in message news:43717058{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it an intelligent hand that drives water
downhill? If you didn't
>>>>>>>>understand gravity you might think water
had thought behind it's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>movements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Geo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

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