From: Ellen K. 

The big bang theory is actually quite compatible with the G-d centered view
of creation, particularly as elucidated in kabbalah (not Madonna's
version).

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:20:16 +0000, Adam
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
message :

>Ellen K. wrote:
>> No, G-d did not "come about", being above time there is
no "before G-d".
>>
>
>How usefull.
>
>Maybe then the universe did not come about either & it's just an endless
>cycle of big bang & big crunch with evolution & life simply being one of
>it's forces much like gravity, inter-atomic forces & magnetism etc.
>
>No need for God at all in that case.
>
>Adam
>
>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:36:07 +0000, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote in
>> message :
>>
>>
>>>Ellen K. wrote:
>>>
>>>>You are anthropomorphizing G-d... making Him just like a person only
>>>>more.   While it is a normal human tendency to explain
things in human
>>>>terms, in this case it is wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Rubbish. That is the old "oh but God is so far from your
understanding
>>>that you will just have to accept" bullsh*t that died in
the enlightenment.
>>>
>>>The ID fallacy depends for it's pseudo-logic upon the central concept
>>>that something complex (such as an eye or a person) can not just come
>>>about but must be created/designed etc.
>>>
>>>However it appears that central conept is flawed in that it would appear
>>>that the very same people then go onto declare that something as complex
>>>etc as God did just come about & was not created/designed.
>>>

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