From: Adam 

Ellen K. wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:58:38 +1100, John Beckett
>  wrote in message
> :
>
>
>>Ellen K.  wrote in message
>>news::
>>
>>>Everything G-d does is good.  However, there is good in a revealed way
>>>(the crops have rain) and good in a concealed way (drought).
>>
>>The above describes a policy, not a logical point-of-view.
>>
>>I don't know if you think that ONLY G-d does things. If you do, your
>>policy is that all things are good. The result is that the word
"good" has
>>no meaning to you.
>
>
> No, humans also do things.  We have free will.
>
>>>Some would already say 9/11 was good because it woke up the world to
>>>militant Islamism.
>>
>>A complex event like 9/11 has many facets. One aspect is that we all get
>>to evaluate what is important to us (should I do an extra three hours work
>>for the Boss tonight, or should I think about my family?).
>>
>
> One positive result.
>
>
>>Another helpful aspect is that the problem of militant Islamism is out in
>>the open, and people are grappling with how to deal with it.
>
>
> And another.
>
>>But the core event (crashing planes into civilian targets in order to kill
>>thousands of innocent people) is BAD! Any deity worthy of respect would
>>not want you to puzzle over this point.
>
>
> Of course killing innocent people is bad.  Duh.
>
> Our world is not so black-and-white such that every action has only good
> results or only bad results.  The rain that helps the crops surely also
> has some bad or negative results.
>
>
>>John
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>

Wow this is an interesting pov. Would this would make the holocaust good or
bad as it lead to the creation of the state of Israel? & f thus the
holocaust was God's will then why pursue those who carried it out given
they were only following the will of God?

& then the creation of the State of Israel has involved many deaths etc
& the seizure of someone else's land so is this good or bad & is it
actually part of aother of God's plans wrt the faithfull followers of Islam?

Crikey this could be the ultimate get out of jail free card.

Adam

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