From: Ellen K. 

It's pretty simple actually if matter is just energy expressed.     :)

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:13:55 -0500, "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message :

>And the description in Genesis fits with it as well.
>
>Gary
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:rbgin1h9of3e3957snb6njh7i435jocp20{at}4ax.com...
>> The big bang theory is actually quite compatible with the G-d centered
>> view of creation, particularly as elucidated in kabbalah (not Madonna's
>> version).
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:20:16 +0000, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote in
>> message :
>>
>> >Ellen K. wrote:
>> >> No, G-d did not "come about", being above time
there is no "before
>G-d".
>> >>
>> >
>> >How usefull.
>> >
>> >Maybe then the universe did not come about either & it's
just an endless
>> >cycle of big bang & big crunch with evolution & life
simply being one of
>> >it's forces much like gravity, inter-atomic forces & magnetism etc.
>> >
>> >No need for God at all in that case.
>> >
>> >Adam
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:36:07 +0000, Adam
>> >> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>> >> message :
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Ellen K. wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>You are anthropomorphizing G-d... making Him just
like a person only
>> >>>>more.   While it is a normal human tendency to
explain things in human
>> >>>>terms, in this case it is wrong.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Rubbish. That is the old "oh but God is so far
from your understanding
>> >>>that you will just have to accept" bullsh*t that
died in the
>enlightenment.
>> >>>
>> >>>The ID fallacy depends for it's pseudo-logic upon the
central concept
>> >>>that something complex (such as an eye or a person)
can not just come
>> >>>about but must be created/designed etc.
>> >>>
>> >>>However it appears that central conept is flawed in
that it would
>appear
>> >>>that the very same people then go onto declare that something as
>complex
>> >>>etc as God did just come about & was not created/designed.
>> >>>
>>
>

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