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to: Bill Lucy
from: Paul Ranson
date: 2005-11-15 19:39:52
subject: Re: Greetings From Idiot America

From: "Paul Ranson" 

I like the cross between radish and cabbage ending up with the root of the
cabbage and the top of the radish.

Paul

"Bill Lucy"  wrote in message
news:MPG.1de3c80ff431059498972a{at}news.barkto.com...
> In article , paul{at}barkto.com says...
>> http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html discusses observed
>> speciation, starting with a discussion of what 'species' means.
>>
>> Contrast the comprehensiveness with
>> http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/deception.html#TalkOrigins
>
> I found this telling from the last site reference:
>
> "If you look at the speciation events that are listed as evidence of
> evolution, most of them will fall into the polyploidy plant category."
>
> It's true that early 20th century experiments and observations were most
> likely polyploidism or hybridization. But there are examples even within
> those experiments that the author's "duplicate" process doesn't wash.
> Examples include different chromosome pairs, reproduction across genus,
> and creation of fertile growth from infertile products.
>
> And the site ignores totally observed speciation outside polyploidism
> ("most of them" implies this actually).
>

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