From: "Robert Comer" 

> There is NO EVIDENCE that Bush suspected the intel was wrong.

Except that he was told by the DIA that the evidence was shaky...  (Ibn
al-Shaykh -- just the main informant for any terrorist activity.)

-
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:437d03fb{at}w3.nls.net...
> There is NO EVIDENCE that Bush suspected the intel was wrong.  NONE.
> Bush
> asked Tenet "Is this all you got?  This is pretty thin?" 
Tenet, the head
> of
> the CIA, the number one official in charge of briefing the President, the
> person whose job it was to assimilate all that everyone at CIA under him
> thought and to give the President his very best advice, the single person
> charged with telling the President what the consensus at the CIA was,
> stated
> to the President "WMD in Iraq is a SLAM DUNK".
>
> Bush had absolutely NO REASON to question the intel.  Neither did the
> Democraps who saw it all themselves and made even STRONGER statements than
> Bush about IRAQ, WMD, and necessity to take him out.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:437cefba{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Other stories about just how shaky the evidence was before the war.
>>
>> >Democrats said the same things
>> > at the same times as well.
>>
>> So?  A lie is a lie if you know it's untrue, or even suspect that you
> might
>> be wrong and still state it as fact.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:437cec2d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > What's the proof that Bush knew the statements were untrue at the time
> he
>> > spoke them?  Without that they aren't lies.  Democrats said the same
>> > things
>> > at the same times as well.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> > news:437ce6c0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > Sheesh, this is all just the same old, same old,
you'll never change
>> > your
>> >> > mind, nor will I.
>> >>
>> >> Without evidence, there's no way to change my mind.
>> >>
>> >> >Bush did NOT lie. 
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, he most certainly did.
>> >>
>> >> "Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United
States because we
>> >> removed him, but he was a threat...He was a threat. He's
not a threat
>> > now."
>> >> . President Bush, 7/2/03
>> >> "We gave our word that the threat from Iraq would be
ended."
>> >> . President Bush 4/24/03
>> >>
>> >> "We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass
> destruction."
>> >> . President Bush, 7/17/03
>> >>
>> >> "The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass
destruction are a threat
> to
>> >> the security of free nations."
>> >> . President Bush, 3/16/03
>> >>
>> >> "The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American. ...
Iraq is a threat, a
>> > real
>> >> threat."
>> >> . President Bush, 1/3/03
>> >>
>> >> "Saddam Hussein is a threat to America."
>> >> . President Bush, 11/3/02
>> >>
>> >> "There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and
dangerous threat to
>> >> American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
>> >> . President Bush, 10/28/02
>> >>
>> >> "There are many dangers in the world, the threat
from Iraq stands
>> >> alone
>> >> because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in
one place.
> Iraq
>> >> could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical
> weapon
>> > to
>> >> a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
>> >> . President Bush, 10/7/02
>> >>
>> >> "The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
>> >> . President Bush, 10/2/02
>> >>
>> >> "There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
>> >> . President Bush, 10/2/02
>> >>
>> >> "This man poses a much graver threat than anybody
could have possibly
>> >> imagined."
>> >> . President Bush, 9/26/02
>> >>
>> >> - Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Mark"  wrote in message
> news:437ce305{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > Sheesh, this is all just the same old, same old,
you'll never change
>> > your
>> >> > mind, nor will I. *What's* new is the Dems throwing
out a bunch of
>> >> > baseless accusations that BushLied(tm). Bush did NOT
lie. 
>> >> > So
>> >> > they, although being effective in hurting Bush's
poll ratings in the
>> > short
>> >> > term, they're are actually coming off like the
buffoons they are
>> >> > with
>> >> > their own lie in this regard for the long term
> >> > harmful to our country and our troops and I'm damn
sick of listening
> to
>> >> > the little weasels>
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:437ce159{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>> Bush never said imminent.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, it was implied.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Iraq was a threat.  With or without WMD on
the ground and it
>> >> >>> needed
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> be
>> >> >>> taken out as part of the GWOT.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now they are, but they weren't before we invaded
and there's no way
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> can convince me of otherwise, he had *no* means
to be a threat.
> They
>> >> >> weren't even connected with terrorism before that...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Intelligence may have been wrong about WMD,
not the desire of
> Hussein
>> > to
>> >> >>> have WMD and to aid terrorists.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Desire means squat, ability is the only thing that counts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> We should have taken him out even knowing
all we know today.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:437cde0a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:437cda68{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >>>> > When you or the democrats get some
then, let me know.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Plenty has been said, I don't need to
reiterate it.  (Something
>> >> >>>> about
>> >> >>>> Iraq
>> >> >>>> being an imminent threat....)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Bush never said imminent.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Oh, that Iraq was a threat
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Iraq was a threat.  With or without WMD on
the ground and it
>> >> >>> needed
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> be
>> >> >>> taken out as part of the GWOT.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>, or that their intelligence was wrong about it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Intelligence may have been wrong about WMD,
not the desire of
> Hussein
>> > to
>> >> >>> have WMD and to aid terrorists.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> and we shouldn't have invaded.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We should have taken him out even knowing
all we know today.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Gary
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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