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from: frank{at}katestone.com.au
date: 2003-03-19 08:51:06
subject: Re: URLS and archives [was: Re: ATM ROC with a straight edge and drill

From: "Frank Q" 
To: "Ralph Seguin" ,
        "Jeff Anderson-Lee" ,
        "Bob May" ,
        "atmlist" 
Reply-To: "Frank Q" 


Hi All

I cannot tolerate advertisements. Once they start they just keep getting worse.

My vote is that we keep it as it is

Cheers
Frank Q



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Seguin" 
To: "Jeff Anderson-Lee" ;
"Bob May"
; "atmlist" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Re: URLS and archives
[was: Re: ATM ROC with a straight edge and
drill bits]


>
> I've suggested in the past that we use  Yahoo! Groups
> or something like it to manage the list.
> It provides all of the services that are good for our
> needs: mailing list management, archiving, browsing,
> searching, indexing, posting of files and images and
> more.
> And it is free and pretty easy to use.
> The downside is that you sometimes get the occasional
> advertisement that you have to bypass in order to read
> the article.  It doesn't happen that often though.
>
> -Ralph
>
> --- Jeff Anderson-Lee 
> wrote:
> >
> > Bob May  wrote:
> > > Tony, now you need to put the metric drills and
> > fractional drills in there
> > > and you will have a good list of the drill sizes
> > that are available and
> > that
> > > can go on a webpage with the various sag-radius
> > formulas and maybe a table
> > > of some standard mirror sizes with the sag for
> > particular radii.
> > > The chart with radius going down and mirror
> > diameter going across with
> > sag.
> > > values filling the intersections?
> >
> > I'm at a quandary.  This list is excellent as an
> > immediate resource for help
> > and fair as a long-term archival resource. (I often
> > find it hard to search.)
> > Putting URLs into e-mail messages helps the
> > immediate resource property, but
> > is potentially detrimental to the long-term archival
> > aspect as URLs tend to
> > "decay" over time unless there is committed archival
> > storage for their data.
> > At the same time, I feel reluctant to put large
> > tabular data into e-mail as
> > a way to get it into the archives and the
> > "text-only" mode of the list makes
> > it harder to archive images and non-ascii data files
> > or programs for
> > example.
> >
> > Is there some stable/long-term ATM web resource
> > where we could place such
> > items and then safely refere to them from this list,
> > knowing that the links
> > in the archive would be more likely to survive?
> >
> > Jeff Anderson-Lee
> > Sacramento, CA
> >
> >
>
>
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