From: "Robert Comer" 

Other stories about just how shaky the evidence was before the war.

>Democrats said the same things
> at the same times as well.

So?  A lie is a lie if you know it's untrue, or even suspect that you might
be wrong and still state it as fact.

--
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> What's the proof that Bush knew the statements were untrue at the time he
> spoke them?  Without that they aren't lies.  Democrats said the same
> things
> at the same times as well.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:437ce6c0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Sheesh, this is all just the same old, same old, you'll never change
> your
>> > mind, nor will I.
>>
>> Without evidence, there's no way to change my mind.
>>
>> >Bush did NOT lie. 
>>
>> Sorry, he most certainly did.
>>
>> "Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States because we
>> removed him, but he was a threat...He was a threat. He's not a threat
> now."
>> . President Bush, 7/2/03
>> "We gave our word that the threat from Iraq would be ended."
>> . President Bush 4/24/03
>>
>> "We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass
destruction."
>> . President Bush, 7/17/03
>>
>> "The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are
a threat to
>> the security of free nations."
>> . President Bush, 3/16/03
>>
>> "The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American. ... Iraq is a threat, a
> real
>> threat."
>> . President Bush, 1/3/03
>>
>> "Saddam Hussein is a threat to America."
>> . President Bush, 11/3/02
>>
>> "There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and dangerous threat to
>> American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
>> . President Bush, 10/28/02
>>
>> "There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone
>> because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq
>> could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon
> to
>> a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
>> . President Bush, 10/7/02
>>
>> "The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
>> . President Bush, 10/2/02
>>
>> "There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
>> . President Bush, 10/2/02
>>
>> "This man poses a much graver threat than anybody could have possibly
>> imagined."
>> . President Bush, 9/26/02
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> > Sheesh, this is all just the same old, same old, you'll never change
> your
>> > mind, nor will I. *What's* new is the Dems throwing out a bunch of
>> > baseless accusations that BushLied(tm). Bush did NOT lie.
 So
>> > they, although being effective in hurting Bush's poll ratings in the
> short
>> > term, they're are actually coming off like the buffoons they are with
>> > their own lie in this regard for the long term > > harmful to our country and our troops and I'm damn sick of listening to
>> > the little weasels>
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> > news:437ce159{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>> Bush never said imminent.
>> >>
>> >> So, it was implied.
>> >>
>> >>> Iraq was a threat.  With or without WMD on the ground
and it needed
>> >>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> taken out as part of the GWOT.
>> >>
>> >> Now they are, but they weren't before we invaded and there's no way
>> >> you
>> >> can convince me of otherwise, he had *no* means to be a
threat.  They
>> >> weren't even connected with terrorism before that...
>> >>
>> >>> Intelligence may have been wrong about WMD, not the
desire of Hussein
> to
>> >>> have WMD and to aid terrorists.
>> >>
>> >> Desire means squat, ability is the only thing that counts.
>> >>
>> >>> We should have taken him out even knowing all we know today.
>> >>
>> >> No.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:437cde0a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>>
>> >>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >>> news:437cda68{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>>> > When you or the democrats get some then, let me know.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Plenty has been said, I don't need to reiterate
it.  (Something
>> >>>> about
>> >>>> Iraq
>> >>>> being an imminent threat....)
>> >>>
>> >>> Bush never said imminent.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Oh, that Iraq was a threat
>> >>>
>> >>> Iraq was a threat.  With or without WMD on the ground
and it needed
>> >>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> taken out as part of the GWOT.
>> >>>
>> >>>>, or that their intelligence was wrong about it
>> >>>
>> >>> Intelligence may have been wrong about WMD, not the
desire of Hussein
> to
>> >>> have WMD and to aid terrorists.
>> >>>
>> >>>> and we shouldn't have invaded.
>> >>>
>> >>> We should have taken him out even knowing all we know today.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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