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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-11-17 11:30:52
subject: Re: Revenge Of The Jedi: Cheney pursues the dark sith lords of the dem

From: "Robert Comer" 

> What charges?

Charges the democrats are making about Bush leading us into war under false
pretenses.

>I've yet to see anyone post a quote from Bush and then show
> it was untrue and then show he knew it was untrue at the time it was said.

I'm asking for the other side of the argument now -- they the republicans
should put up a defense of their actions rather than just attacking the
democrats.

--
Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:437cad37{at}w3.nls.net...
> What charges?  I've yet to see anyone post a quote from Bush and then show
> it was untrue and then show he knew it was untrue at the time it was said.
>
> Without the above charges of LIES are just LIES about alleged lies.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:437c6a57{at}w3.nls.net...
>> But they did it too just doesn't cut it.
>>
>> Anyway, it would be far more effective to answer why the charges are
>> false
>> if he could, rather than attacking the opposition.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:437c16a4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > CHENEY FIGHTS BACK
>> > Wed Nov 16 2005 18:56:46 ET
>> >
>> > Excerpts As Prepared For Delivery Tonight by Vice President Cheney
>> >
>> > THE VICE PRESIDENT: "As most of you know, I have spent a
lot of years
>> > in
>> > public service, and first came to work in Washington, D.C. back in the
>> > late
>> > 1960s. I know what it's like to operate in a highly charged political
>> > environment, in which the players on all sides of an issue feel
>> > passionately
>> > and speak forcefully.
>> >
>> > In such an environment people sometimes lose their cool, and yet in
>> > Washington you can ordinarily rely on some basic measure of
>> > truthfulness
>> > and
>> > good faith in the conduct of political debate. But in the last several
>> > weeks
>> > we have seen a wild departure from that tradition.
>> >
>> > And the suggestion that's been made by some U. S. senators that the
>> > President of the United States or any member of this Administration
>> > purposely misled the American people on pre-war intelligence is one of
> the
>> > most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city...
>> >
>> > Some of the most irresponsible comments have, of course, come from
>> > politicians who actually voted in favor of authorizing force against
>> > Saddam
>> > Hussein. These are elected officials who had access to the
>> > intelligence,
>> > and
>> > were free to draw their own conclusions.
>> >
>> > They arrived at the same judgment about Iraq's capabilities and
> intentions
>> > that was made by this Administration and by the previous
>> > Administration.
>> > There was broad-based, bipartisan agreement that Saddam Hussein was a
>> > threat . that he had violated U.N. Security Council Resolutions . and
>> > that,
>> > in a post-9/11 world, we couldn't afford to take the word of a dictator
>> > who
>> > had a history of WMD programs, who had excluded weapons inspectors, who
>> > had
>> > defied the demands of the international community, who had been
> designated
>> > an official state sponsor of terror, and who had committed mass murder.
>> >
>> > Those are facts.
>> >
>> > What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own
>> > statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a
>> > war.
>> > The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to
>> > these
>> > cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out. American soldiers
>> > and
>> > Marines are out there every day in dangerous conditions and desert
>> > temperatures - conducting raids, training Iraqi forces, countering
>> > attacks,
>> > seizing weapons, and capturing killers - and back home a few
> opportunists
>> > are suggesting they were sent into battle for a lie.
>> >
>> > The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
>> > their
>> > memory, or their backbone - but we're not going to sit by and let them
>> > rewrite history.
>> >
>> > We're going to continue throwing their own words back at them. And far
>> > more
>> > important, we're going to continue sending a consistent message to the
> men
>> > and women who are fighting the war on terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and
>> > many
>> > other fronts.
>> >
>> > We can never say enough how much we appreciate them, and how proud they
>> > make
>> > us. They and their families can be certain: That this cause is right .
> and
>> > the performance of our military has been brave and honorable . and this
>> > nation will stand behind our fighting forces with pride and without
>> > wavering
>> > until the day of victory.
>> >
>> > Developing...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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