USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
> On 15 Mar 2005 12:54:13 -0800, "bluesmama"

> wrote:
>
>>yared22311{at}yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Class failures
>>> Women's studies courses at colleges and universities teach
>>> misinformation and give bad advice, says a study by the Independent
>>> Women's Forum.
>>> at http://www.washtimes.com/culture/20050314-102930-7757r.htm
>>>
>>> report is at http://www.iwf.org/
>>
>>I've read the article, and it's certainly an interesting read, with a
>>lot of good points made; I don't agree with all of them, but I was
>>surprised at how much of what I was reading seemed to resonate with my
>>own thinking.
>>
>>This is an interesting read, too. It's the Independent Women's Forum
>>mission statement page: http://www.iwf.org/about_iwf/default.asp
>
> Start quoted material
>
> Our Mission
>
> The Independent Women's Forum was established to combat the
> women-as-victim, pro-big-government ideology of radical feminism. We
> seek to restore, strengthen, and extend that which promotes women's
> well being by advancing the principles of self-reliance, political
> freedom, economic liberty, and personal responsibility.
>
>
> Our Vision
>
> IWF is the essential, informed, articulate voice of thoughtful and
> caring mainstream women in the policy and media battles that shape our
> nation's future. While showing that we have both a head and heart, we
> promote voluntary, cooperative approaches to life's challenges that
> can brighten the future.
>
>
> What does IWF do?
>
> IWF provides a voice for responsible, mainstream women who embrace
> common sense over divisive ideology. We make that voice heard in the
> U.S. Supreme Court, among other decision makers in Washington, and
> across America's airwaves as we:
>
>     * Counter the dangerous influence of radical feminism in the
> courts
>     * Combat corrosive feminist ideology on campus
>     * Change the terms of the debate on quality of life issues
> affecting American women
>
> Through programs, such as our legal, campus, and work/family projects,
> the IWF will continue to:
>
>     * Educate women on the benefits of the free market and the danger
> of big government
>     * Challenge conventional feminist myths with accurate information
> and lively debate
>     * Provide a forum for women who are not represented by radical
> feminist groups
>
> End of quoted material.
>
> Not a word anywhere about men.  It is as though they believe women are
> the only ones victimized by radical feminism.  This looks to me like
> just another group of women-firsters even though they may be striking
> blows against feminists.

One could say that, while they disagree with Feminist's tactics, the
place that all go to, isn't that different:

" Me, me, me, its all about me ! "

A couple of years ago, Wendy McElroy posted briefly to soc.men, and
was disenchanted, due to her not getting an " our savior " kinda
response, again, in no small part, due to her women-centricness.

Now, if there were a women's group whose " mission statement " said
something along the lines of " As we love and value our men and our
women, we must oppose any movements that seek to divide our women
from our men, no matter the claimed motives for such a thing ",
then I'd be right there with them.

But, even IWF can't get their heads out of their asses long enough
to look up, and notice that men are about half of the people...

Stats from a nominally claimed " gender neutral " group: NARAL:
On their search engine I tried " men's rights ". Zero hits
Then, " father's rights. " Zero hits again.

But, type in " abortion ", and I got 487 hits. 96 for " Now "...

So much for " gender neutral "...

I sent them an e-mail asking about their efforts in support of men.
Is anyone surprised that I got... no response ?

>>The cynical part of me would have been surprised had their study come
>>to any other conclusion. That's one of the things that makes studies
>>and statistics so difficult for me to believe or disbelieve - it seems
>>as if everyone is just out to prove their own theory correct, and
>>whatever gets in the way of that gets disregarded with some creative
>>accounting or spin.
>
> What study are you talking about?  There weren't any on the Mission
> Statement page.

Andre




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