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from: `bluesmama` onebluesmama
date: 2005-03-16 00:59:00
subject: Re: No More Mr. Nice Guy: The Rules.

Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> In article ,
>  "bluesmama"  wrote:
>
> > Troll wrote:
> > > "Dr. Sooz"  wrote in
> > news:1110853303.540301.130930
> > > {at}l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> > >
> > > >>Maybe her husband is another pussy whipped poor man, like
Hardpan
> > > > described in his excellent Rules post.
> > > >
> > > > You wish.  He......well, that's none of your business.  But
he's a
> > > > happy, happy guy.  :-D
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Pussy whipped men think they are happy. Poor creatures.
> >
> > Poor happy, fulfilled, loved, evolved men. How you must envy -
ooops, I
> > mean pity - them.
> >
>
> I'm reminded of the character "Edith Bunker" from All
> in the Family.  Of course, towards the end of the series,
> it became necessary to make her politically correct
> and stand up to the evil, stupid, (and of course,
> conservative) Archie Bunker.  But for most of the
> series, she was always pleasant and happy no matter
> how abusive or demeaning Archie treated her.
> At some level, she knew that her "stupidity" Archie
> Bunker pointed out about her made him happy and she
> found pleasure in this.
>
> On the other hand, how many modern day female Archie
> Bunkers love and enjoy the P-whipped guys they're
> surrounded by?  There's certainly no shortage
> of such men.  Why aren't all of these women happily
> settled down with such men instead of usually single
> mothers or spinsters?
>
> regards,
> Mark Sobolewski

The Archie Bunker character pointed out his own meanness and bigotry,
Edith was ditzy but good-hearted at least. Stupid in that idiot savant
way as far as knowledge of relationships and emotions went, in
opposition to Archie's rigidly controlled masculine code. He needed her
more than she needed him, but of course couldn't see that. Never liked
the show much anyway.

I think just saying a man can be pussywhipped is derogatory, are men
truly that easily led? Don't you think it's more an individual choice
for each man about what things are important enough to fight about and
which things you can just let go? That seems more like strength than
weakness to me.



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