On 15 Mar 2005 15:02:06 -0800, mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Virgo Cluster wrote:
>> Hyerdahl wrote:
>
>> Yes, I agree, and I guess one of my points was a bit
>> obscure. I'm a lot more impressed with people who achieve
>> through nurture than by nature, and from what I've
>> seen in the past ten years or so, women -- especially
>> young women -- impress me far more than men do. This
>> goes for what I see in the gym as well as what I see
>> in the classroom.
>
>Hello,
>
>I really can't talk about the state of young women
>since I guess I'm an old fogey whose circle of
>associates range between late 20's beyond.
>I've heard that the younger generation is very
>different than what had gone before.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if many young women were
>surpassing young men.  



You amaze me, Mark.  Do you mean "physically"?  Are you saying that
you wouldn't be surprised if many young women were surpassing young
men PHYSICALLY?  Or am I misreading you?  Surpassing young men in
WHAT?

Aren't you the one always telling me and the world that women are SO
ineffectual compared to men that women really can't be blamed for the
atrocities that they seem to be committing or that are being committed
in their name?

Now all of a sudden, it's YOU that has what seems to be a
Hyerdahl-like belief in what women are capable of.  If young women can
surpass young men physically - IF they are - they certainly can and
must be surpassing them in other realms, as well, by even GREATER
margins.

And THAT would seem to contradict your original oft-stated argument
that women are too pathetically weak to be held responsible for
anything.

Which is it?


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