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echo: scanners
to: JONATHAN GUY
from: ANDY ULRICH
date: 1996-10-05 16:27:00
subject: Illegal

 -=> Quoting Jonathan Guy to Andy Ulrich <=-
 AU> I was asked politely so I did. If it had been an order, 
 AU> that would have been
 AU> a different story. If there is no law against it they 
 AU> can't tell you to turn 
 JG> That may not be correct, there is a little thing called Officer
 JG> Safety. Bear in mind, especially out of state that the officer doesn't
 JG> know you from John Q. Turd and doesn't know how you'll react to things.
 JG> For that matter, he doesn't know if it is your car and your scanner, a
 JG> local thug could've car-jacked you and is now driving around with your
 JG> car and scanner... 
 JG> I said all that to say this  :)
 
Yes but at the time he had my drivers license in hand with the proper picture
and my pager was right beside my scanner all my fire department stickers were
clearly visable. He knew exactly who I was before he asked me to turn off the
scanner. 
I have a theory about the whole situation. We ie: the fire 
department have had power plays with the Highway Patrol in the past, in fact
a big stink put a few patrol men in hot water with their supervisors arising 
from a Trooper telling the fire department to clear the fire equipment from 
the road to let traffic pass which was backed up. This in conjunction with 
another trooper yelling at our Chief and asking him "Who the hell are you
and what are you doing here" even though he didn't have his bunker gear on,  
he did have a radio in hand and was giving orders to all the fire personel at
the scene. Quite frankly a no bainer! All this while we were trying to 
extricate a badly injured victim of a car wreck. Another fatal car wreck they 
refused to call for a wrecker to move a car that had ended up against a house 
and was leaking gas. When we had asked County 911 dispatch were the wrecker 
was they advised that Troopers had refused to call for one, saying that the 
car was not near the structure and not leaking gas. The fact was the car was 
within 4ft. of the house and was leaking gas all over the place. 
Now I know that emotions can run high at emergency situations but there is no
call for that type of behavior.
 JG> If he runs the car for stolen, he doesn't want you to be sitting
 JG> behind the wheel and here "Vehicle was taken in an armed robbery about
 JG> 2 hours ago 100 miles down the road..."
 As far as this situation I was in my own township with my sticker that all
 Ohio vehicles have on the plates stating the county of residence.
 JG> See what I'm saying?  Fortunately you were nice to him, and from
 JG> what you've said, he had a good attitude with you...everybody drove
 JG> away and nobody rode away in a backseat....   :)
 You are quite correct about this. Being cooperative most definately got me 
 out of a speeding ticket. 
 The Officer safety thing can be abused, that could cover just about anything
 they wanted to do or have you do. I just wish he had put some more brain
 power and training to use in the situation, it just left a bad taste in my
 mouth.
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