Jim McCulloch wrote:
> 
> In article , csmkersh@flash.net (Sam A.
> Kersh) wrote:
> 
> > Oh, Jim, Jim, how careless with the truth you are.....  BTW, I did
> > DejaNews you and BD and found one post only from 1994 through last week.
> 
> I have to say your research abilities are on a par with you ability to
> fathom the mysteries of the syllogism, although they perhaps exceed your
> abilities to understand that remarks in an article attacking Kleck's
> methods are not pro-Kleck.
> 
> Specifically, limiting a DejaNews power search to posts by
> mcculloch@mail.utexas.edu, and searching on "branch davidian" I get 8
> hits.  Searching on "koresh" I get 9 hits.  Searching on "waco" I get 34
> hits, all but two or three of which seem to be about the assault on the
> Branch Davidian compound.  Since there is some overlap, I would guess that
> I have written about 30 posts that make clear my detestation of the
> government's actions in Waco.
> 
> Give it another try, Sam.
> 
> And after you have improved your research skills, go back and read that
> article again, and tell me how the criticisms of Kleck found there there
> differ from those I made.  Hint: I made no criticism of Kleck that was not
> found in the article you quoted as pro-Kleck.
> 
> > And, yes, you did defend the Davidians stand.  Wonder why you think it's
> > ok for the Davidians to defend themselves against  assault by the
> > federal government but insist that Gordon R. Hale was a murderer for
> > defending himself against the assault by Mr. Tavai.
> 
> As far as anyone knows Mr. Hale's car was not initially riddled by a
> fusillade from Mr. Tavai, or fired on by machine guns from Mr. Tavai's
> helocopters, in the course of a military style assault.  Mr. Tavai's
> initial assault did not kill a bunch of Hale's passengers,  nor was Mr.
> Hale's car beseiged by Mr. Tavai for many weeks, deprived of food and
> water and ultimately filled with tear gas and  crunched by Mr. Tavai's
> tanks and set on fire, nor did Mr. Hale and his remaining 80 or 90
> passengers get burned alive in the car.  Mr. Hale in fact survived with
> minor injuries, none of which were visible to police or witnesses at the
> scene.
> 
> The only person who had,or used, a gun in the Hale incident, was Mr. Hale.

Would that be the Mr. Hale who was being severely beaten by Mr. Tavai, and who
suffered permanent injury from the beating? "At the scene" is quite immaterial
in such a case regarding injuries. Many take some time to become visible, if
at all.


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   when the government is wrong."   
 	--Voltaire	

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  you have nothing to complain about.
     If someone is, shoot back." 
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