Andre Lieven wrote:
> "ls" (lsends{at}excite.com) writes:
> > Andre Lieven wrote:
> >> "ls" (lsends{at}excite.com) writes:
> >> > She took advantage of you because you let her.  It's just as
much
> >> > your fault as it is hers.
> >>
> >> You tell " date rape victims " that, too ?
> >
> > Yes, but not in those exact words,
>
> IOW, thats a " No. " Got it.

Wrong, it's a "yes".  You think that you can't same the same thing
using different words?

>
> > it's the same principle.  If you put
> > yourself in a bad situation you can only blame yourself for being
> > there.  You can't blame yourself for what someone else does to you
but
> > you can certainly take responsibility for being there.  We don't
live
> > in a perfect world and rape victims learn that the hard way.  You
> > simply can't trust everyone and put yourself in harmful situations.
>
> No, go tell that at a " Womyn's Centre ". Let us know how it went.
> 

I've talked with many women about this type of thing.  It's about
taking responsibly for your actions.  It's pretty simple.

>
> > A person can't go around putting themselves in bad situations and
not
> > take personal responsibility for themselves.  More often than not,
if
> > you let someone take advantage of you they will.  As in the OP,
it's
> > especially true for men when it comes to dating women.
>
> So, if a woman " takes " a guy, its his fault.
>
> Got it: " Feminism: Always blame the nearest *man*. ".

What are you talking about?  I'm not blaming the man.  I'm saying that
women will take advantage of the man, if he lets her.  As I have always
said, it's both of their fault.  I'm blaming the woman too.

>
> Let us know when you demand that single women who decide,
*unilaterally*,
> to bear a child, aren't entitled to a penny from anyone else.

I fully believe that if a single woman decides to bear a child without
the consent of the father she should also bear the responsibility.

>
> >> Uh huh.
>
> Indeed.
>
> Andre
> --
> " I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
>                                     The Man Prayer, Red Green.



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