In article  ,
"Hyerdahl"  wrote:

>
> Deborah Terreson wrote:
>> In article  ,
>> "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Deborah Terreson wrote:
>> >> In article

> ,
>> >> "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Viking wrote:
>> >> >> On 29 Mar 2005 07:04:46 -0800,
"Hyerdahl" 
>> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >The use of scissors to make fun of RAPISTS
is not quite the
> same
>> > as
>> >> >> >discriminating against men...unless...of
course, you believe
> ALL
>> > MEN
>> >> >> >ARE RAPISTS?  Surely, that cannot be so, Phil.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That was obvioulsy the point, hyperdung, that all men are
> rapists.
>> >> >> Hence the general pointing of scissors. Can't
you ever even
>> > attempt
>> >> > to
>> >> >> think straight???
>> >> >
>> >> > The point of the scissors was to cut off rapist'd dongs.  The
> only
>> > way that could be stretched to "all men" is either
if that group
> said
>> > it did or if you are interpreting that way, meaning that YOU think
> all
>> > men> are rapists.
>> >>
>> >> The U.N.H Campus Lesbians do.
>
> Prove it, "Deb".

Ooop. Here comes the quotation marks around my name again...

Are you going to start to call me a man?
>
>
> Nice try Parg, in trying to wiggle out
>> > of> turning the ideology they have on it's head and making it what
> the
>> > men in>> this NG think.
>> >
> Unless they have PROOF that this was the intention of the group, by
> something the group has said, it is all about the bitter boys here and
> their interpretation.
>
And if in this case, the general drift of the men out here might be correct
about this? What then?
>
>> Again, I saw zero, zip about those women making the statement that
> all
>> men are rapists.
>>
>> Come on Parg, you can do better than that.
>
> I don't need to DO "better" since you're the one with no proof.  These
> feminists were clearly speaking of rapists.

So why did they want the 'man' to leave?
>>
>> > The bitter boys here seem to be inferring that all
>> > men are rapists because the scissors were aimed at rapists and NOT
> at
>> > the fathers, brothers or lovers of these feminists.
>>
>> Got news for you: These women have few men who love them.
>
> So say you?  Hon, from a man pretending to be a woman I'd need some
> proof and not just your say-so.

WHOOP! There it is! *Yawn* Oh dear. I seem to be getting under your skin,
aren't I?
>
> Radical lesbians,> my dear, view men as dirty.
>
> Have you ever MET any "radical lesbians"?

What a stupid question. Of course Parg.. I worked with one even when I was
going door to door for the League of Conservation Voters. Her name was Lucy,
and she killed a man who was attacking her lover. She was a bit nuts, to say
the least. Tried to get me to pretend I needed an abortion and cross the
anti-abortion picket line in front of the Feminist Health center, so she
could take photos of the 'harassment' the women going in had to endure.
Needless to say, I wanted no part of her political chicanery (I don't know
why she didn't just take pictures of the women going in for real - god knows
they got hassled bad enough), and she got outright hostile to me - somehow,
I was betraying the cause of women's victimhood by not joining in her games.
Then there was Jamie, who hung out at the youth center where the FHC was,
and was very abusive to her girlfriend Nicole (who was as sweet and insecure
as it got). Last time I saw Jamie, she had grown a goatee. No shit.

> Besides, most NOW members,
> according to a study, a few years ago, were found to be married with
> children.   Anyhoo...lesbians have little reason to hate men since they
> spend so little time with them. :-)

Well, the ones that haven't slipped off the rails, that is.
>
>  This group is known in Durham and Portsmouth> (where I live) as being
> quite... ummm. strident in their disdain for men.
>
> So, everyone in Durham and Porsmouth hates men?

No, only the women that formed the UNH group. They go up there and stir up
shit with the freshmen every few years, until they get so irksome, that they
fall out of vogue. It goes on a 6 or 7 year cycle, like clockwork. When I
was working in NARAL, they hung out of a place called the Elvis Room, and
before that, it was at the Feminist Health center that was down one block
from me.

> Nah, I can't believe that.

Well, not everyone *hates* men, there are the gay men here, you know.. *LOL*
Parg, this is the gayest city in America! If it were the size of San
Francisco it would have double the number of homosexuals that are there.
Prescott Park, which is at the end of the street I live on, used to be
*nationally* advertised in Mandate as one of the best cruising spots in the
northeast! Pierce Island is to this day, not a place you want to go walking
around the far side of the water treatment plant, for the chance of running
into some of the locals engaging in blow jobs in the bushes. It's off limits
after dark now, as a local got killed 7 years ago, for trying to put the
make on two very drunk straight men who beat and robbed him for his
troubles.

> Besides where's your PROOF that these fems were talking about men in
> general instead of rapists?

And what is the likelyhood that they weren't, given the politics of this
organization? Do you personally know the attitudes of some of the women in
this group as I do?

>
>>> All sex is rape, all men are rapists. As painful as it is for you,
>> > remember
>> >> your Andrea Dworkin and Kathleen Mackinnons dear.
>  >
>> > 'Deb', Dworkin and Mackinnon were not AT this party, nor were they
>> > mentioned in the article.  Apparently, all feminists look alike to
> you.
>> >  :-)
>>
>> Look alike? Not at all!
>
> Or think alike.  This group was strictly talking rapists, so if you
> think all men are rapists....be my guest.

Again, like a sneaky spoiled 12 year old, you try and turn this around.
>>
>> And yes, Dworkin and Mackinnon were there in spirit, my sweet.
>
> Hon, I don't mix religion with facts.  I'd still need proof and you,
> like a man in a canoe without a paddle are struggling to find any.

Nope. I know the crowd.
>
>> Again, do you KNOW this crowd? I do.
>
> No you don't 'Deb'.

Yes I do Parg. I know some of them and their friends personally. I know this
crowd, many of them hang out at Caffe Kilim's, across the street from the
post office. You are talking to me about people you don't know. I do.

>You're still waiting to discover that thing
> between your legs is  a dong, perhaps not a long dong, but it doesn't
> come off every time you change your puppet.  Hint:  there's no there
> there, and the proof that they were speaking of rapists is there.
> Win-win.
>
What puppet Parg? I don't have the time or inclination to be out here
playing fake name games with the group. Have you realized that every time I
put you in a corner, you fall back on this tired line? Grow up, okay,
'Heather'?

Deb.


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