Chitty wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2005 07:35:02 -0700, "Hyerdahl"
 wrote:
>
> >
> >jason steiner wrote:
> >
> >> I have no hard data to back this up but my impression is that
there
> >is a
> >> trend towards man sharing in the U.S. Women have become pickier on
> >the
> >> type of men they will date. As a result of women becoming more
> >> selective, they are now sharing the shrinking pool of men they
> >approve
> >> of.
> >
> >I agree with you on one point here, i.e. that women are becoming
much
> >more selective about what men they will accept and what men they
won't
> >accept; I don't agree that this leads to "man sharing".  The same
kinds
> >of women who have high standards regarding men are women more likely
to
> >resent the notion of  polygamy, IMO.
> >>
> >> Here are some of the ramifications that I see from this trend.
> >>
> >> 1. More women are dating married men than ever before.  If "all
the
> >good
> >> ones are taken" , today's women will pick a
"taken" over a man
they
> >> don't consider a "good one".
> >
> >Married men don't really "date" other women;  they commit adultry
with
> >them.  And, usually, when a wife discovers this, they divorce the
man
> >in question, which is one reason why our divorce rate is so high.
> >Adultry has always been popular for men, and today, it is almost as
> >popular for married women who work outside the home.  It's about
sex,
> >fulfillment and the newness of a new relationship.  Adultry sponsors
> >divorce.
> >
> >> 2. More single mothers. Many of the same men are getting multiple
> >women
> >> pregnant.
> >
> >I don't know that more of the "same men" are
impregnating women, but
> >certainly some single women are impregnated by married men.  Having
> >more single pregnant women doesn't really imply man sharing, as much
as
> >it implies, more recreational sex for single women.  This enables
women
> >to enjoy the sausage without having to buy the pig, especially if
the
> >woman is waiting for the prince.  :-)  And, it enables women to have
> >children before they meet the prince.  After all, there is no
assurance
> >that there is a prince there for every woman, but she can still have
a
> >family without a pig.
> >
> >> 3. More lifelong single men. These are the men women don't approve
> >of.
> >
> >I resent that.  :-)  Many single men are wonderful men and women do
> >approve.  Bill Maher, for example, is a single man who is very
honest
> >about his sex life.  He enjoys having sex with many women, and is
not
> >ready to form an attachment to one.  I approve of Bill Maher, and
> >applaud his ability to know himself, and his honesty toward women.
> >
> >> In an earlier era things would have fallen into place for these
guys.
> >> These were the guys who used to make good stable husbands and
> >fathers.
> >> Many will stay single their entire lives which is very unnatural
yet
> >> does have some advantages.
> >>
> >Well, being alone has few advantages, but there is no reason for a
> >woman to marry a pig, when the sausage is free.  And that's the
truth.
> >There's simply no reason for a woman to put up with the kind of shit
> >that comes with being married to a pig, especially when a person can
> >provide for themselves.
> >
> >> 4. More bitter women. More women getting used, abused and cheated
on
> >by
> >> the shrinking group of men they approve of.
> >
> >Nah; women since time immortal have been used, abused and cheated on
by
> >men.  This is nothing new.  What IS "new" is the vast amount of
> >information now avialable to women about the real feelings men have
> >about women.  This information allows women to make better choices.
> >Many women of my own generation who refused to read books by
Virginia
> >Woolf (because they were depressing) now accept her words.  This,
> >coupled with the enforcement of equal rights is giving women a whole
> >new lease on life.
> >
> >> 5. A large increase in lonely older women. As women age and lose
> >their
> >> looks many will find themselves alone for the rest of their lives.
If
> >> they would have chosen different men they might have had
> >companionship
> >> during their golden years.
> >
> >What you call an "increase" in older women has actually been going
on
> >for quite a while.  It seems to me that women's lifespan was
increased
> >by about 7 years for the last 40 years or so.  However, that doesn't
> >mean these women are "lonely".  Women are cooperative creatures;
they
> >have cooperative interests.  In fact, I mentioned The Red Hat Club
in
> >another post where older or retired women of means group together to
> >take vacations, dine, etc.
> >
> >> Just for the record I'm in a relationship but these are the trends
> >that I see in general.
> >
> >People who have something to offer to other people, generally form
> >relationships whether they result in marriage, friendship or
other...
> >The trick is having something to offer.  There's nothing magic about
> >that.
> >
> >  Maybe it's just my social circle, but I have> especially noticed
an
> >increase in bitter and lonely middle aged women in recent years.
> >
> >Well, some middle aged women ....women of my own generation....may
have
> >come to the conclusion that they married the pig.  Women of my
> >generation didn't have the same equal rights enforced that women do
> >now; marriage was expected, and not many of them bucked that tide.
> >Today, young women have so many options that middle aged women (of
> >today) didn't have.  And, it's surprising how many middle to old
aged
> >women are divorcing.  Perhaps their lives are less bitter after the
> >divorce.
> >
> Funny to see the liberals patronizing the Catholics with one hand
> while discriminating against them with the other

HOw is that?  Don't Protestants also divorce?  :-)



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