On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 05:38:53 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2020-10-20, Martin Gregorie  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:13:14 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> That sounds like the way it should work.
>>
>> I was lucky: spent 15 years in Logica while it was still a thing.
>>
>>> I experienced a management invasion where the new bosses constantly
>>> preached the virtues of teamwork, while systematically destroying the
>>> smoothly-operating teams that had been in place for 10 years.
>>
>> Were they all MBA's or salesmen by any chance? If they were, that would
>> explain it perfectly.
>
> Our first warning was when a consultant walked into our office and said,
> "OK, now here's the plan..."  Why should he ask us how things worked?
> All we had been doing was keeping the place running for 10 years.
>
> I know, there are good consultants out there.  But I've cleaned up
> enough messes left by bad ones that I consider them guilty until proven
> innocent.
>
>> Salesmen make terrible managers and there should be a permanent open
>> season on MBAs.
>
> At a previous company I learned how important it is to keep the salesmen
> on a tight leash.  This outfit didn't.  On one project we ate a man-year
> trying to keep a salesman's promises.  I swore that if it happened again
> I'd be gone.  Not only did it happen again, it was the same salesman who
> did it.  (He left halfway through that one.)

General principle of consulting, customer must be doing something wrong
or they would not have called you in so change things - the bigger the
changes the more ££££ you can charge.



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He that bringeth a present, findeth the door open.
  -- Scottish proverb.

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