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from: `bluesmama` onebluesmama
date: 2005-04-03 21:02:00
subject: Re: A quick analysis of the stacked deck (how men are hamper

surfcowboy wrote:
> Rafer wrote:
> > 1. Men are restricted from controlling women through their natural
> > means - physical strength. This is said to be barbaric and brutal
and
> > is heavily penalized.
>
> It is. Real men don't beat on women in order to control them.
> Controlling others is a presumptious thing to do anyway.
>
> > 2. Women are not restricted in any way from controlling men using
> their
> > means - emotional strength. Society IGNORES this specific kind of
> > violence that is inflicted on men by women - that men are by nature
> not
> > prepared to defend themselves against.
>
> That's bullshit. Maybe YOU aren't preparaed to deal with an
emotionally
> abusive woman - but that's just your problem. It's controlling if you
> allow it to be so. I'm certainly not in that boat.
>
> > 3. FURTHERMORE, today it is MEN who are blamed for inflicting
> emotional
> > violence on women (e.g. screaming at someone - which is frequently
a
> > man's only defense against female manipulation given that he cannot
> use
> > his hands - is seen as violence committed by men against women) -
> which
> > is a gross mischaracterization of reality.
>
> A severe over generalization.
>
> > The solution: Either stay away from women; or, if you must be
around
> > them, (i) make sure that you have an alibi at all times while in
> their
> > presence; and(ii) do not take them seriously AT ALL. Thinking of
them
> > as children will help you retain an objective stance toward them.
>
> That is incredibly stupid advice. First it assumes that ALL women
> behave the way you describe, which is certainly not true. Secondly,
it
> ignores the fact that we can choose who we will associate with and
who
> we can avoid. All women are not childish, but your asserion that they
> are makes you sound very childish.
>
> > DO NOT believe that you can fall in love with a woman today. You
are
> > gambling with your sanity, your freedom, and your dignity - and the
> > cards are heavily stacked against you.
>
> Oh bollocks! That is so stupid as to be ridiculous.
>
> > Women have superior skills of manipulation, deception and
> interpersonal
> > communication. These skills developed to level the playing field
> > against superior male strength.
>
> Some do and some don't. Women are often just as easily manipulated by
> us. What strange alternative universe do you live in?
>
> > When men are no longer allowed to use their superior physical
> strength,
> > women have both an individual and a collective advantage. The
ability
> > of men to physically intimidate women in the past kept a lot of
those
> > women in check.
>
> Why do you need to hold anyone else in check? That's such a strange
> thing to say. Why not merely control yourself and leave others to do
> likewise?
> Nothing is more obnoxious than a control freak.
>
> > This is why one of the biggest feminist mantras is: "There is never
> an
> > excuse for violence against women."
>
> There isn't. The best way to deal with a crazy woman is to walk away
> from her.
>
> > some MEN's/anti-American women/skank sites:
>
> Ummm...no thanks. You need to change your reading habits.
>
> RS

The OP's rant sounds like a victim talking - or at least it does to me.



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