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from: `mcp` gf010w5035{at}blueyon
date: 2005-04-03 17:03:00
subject: Re: Is there a trend towards man sharing?

"Hyerdahl"  wrote in message
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>
> jason steiner wrote:
>
>> I have no hard data to back this up but my impression is that there
> is a
>> trend towards man sharing in the U.S. Women have become pickier on
> the
>> type of men they will date. As a result of women becoming more
>> selective, they are now sharing the shrinking pool of men they
> approve
>> of.
>
> I agree with you on one point here, i.e. that women are becoming much
> more selective about what men they will accept and what men they won't
> accept; I don't agree that this leads to "man sharing".  The
same kinds
> of women who have high standards regarding men are women more likely to
> resent the notion of  polygamy, IMO.
>>
>> Here are some of the ramifications that I see from this trend.
>>
>> 1. More women are dating married men than ever before.  If "all the
> good
>> ones are taken" , today's women will pick a "taken"
over a man they
>> don't consider a "good one".
>
> Married men don't really "date" other women;  they commit adultry with
> them.  And, usually, when a wife discovers this, they divorce the man
> in question, which is one reason why our divorce rate is so high.
> Adultry has always been popular for men, and today, it is almost as
> popular for married women who work outside the home.  It's about sex,
> fulfillment and the newness of a new relationship.  Adultry sponsors
> divorce.
>
>> 2. More single mothers. Many of the same men are getting multiple
> women
>> pregnant.
>
> I don't know that more of the "same men" are impregnating women, but
> certainly some single women are impregnated by married men.  Having
> more single pregnant women doesn't really imply man sharing, as much as
> it implies, more recreational sex for single women.  This enables women
> to enjoy the sausage without having to buy the pig, especially if the
> woman is waiting for the prince.  :-)  And, it enables women to have
> children before they meet the prince.  After all, there is no assurance
> that there is a prince there for every woman, but she can still have a
> family without a pig.
>
>> 3. More lifelong single men. These are the men women don't approve
> of.
>
> I resent that.  :-)  Many single men are wonderful men and women do
> approve.  Bill Maher, for example, is a single man who is very honest
> about his sex life.  He enjoys having sex with many women, and is not
> ready to form an attachment to one.  I approve of Bill Maher, and
> applaud his ability to know himself, and his honesty toward women.
>
>> In an earlier era things would have fallen into place for these guys.
>> These were the guys who used to make good stable husbands and
> fathers.
>> Many will stay single their entire lives which is very unnatural yet
>> does have some advantages.
>>
> Well, being alone has few advantages, but there is no reason for a
> woman to marry a pig, when the sausage is free.  And that's the truth.
> There's simply no reason for a woman to put up with the kind of shit
> that comes with being married to a pig, especially when a person can
> provide for themselves.
>
>> 4. More bitter women. More women getting used, abused and cheated on
> by
>> the shrinking group of men they approve of.
>
> Nah; women since time immortal have been used, abused and cheated on by
> men.  This is nothing new.  What IS "new" is the vast amount of
> information now avialable to women about the real feelings men have
> about women.  This information allows women to make better choices.
> Many women of my own generation who refused to read books by Virginia
> Woolf (because they were depressing) now accept her words.  This,
> coupled with the enforcement of equal rights is giving women a whole
> new lease on life.
>
>> 5. A large increase in lonely older women. As women age and lose
> their
>> looks many will find themselves alone for the rest of their lives. If
>> they would have chosen different men they might have had
> companionship
>> during their golden years.
>
> What you call an "increase" in older women has actually been going on
> for quite a while.  It seems to me that women's lifespan was increased
> by about 7 years for the last 40 years or so.  However, that doesn't
> mean these women are "lonely".  Women are cooperative creatures; they
> have cooperative interests.  In fact, I mentioned The Red Hat Club in
> another post where older or retired women of means group together to
> take vacations, dine, etc.
>
>> Just for the record I'm in a relationship but these are the trends
> that
>> I see in general.
>
> People who have something to offer to other people, generally form
> relationships whether they result in marriage, friendship or other...
> The trick is having something to offer.  There's nothing magic about
> that.
>
>  Maybe it's just my social circle, but I have> especially noticed an
> increase in bitter and lonely middle aged women in recent years.
>
> Well, some middle aged women ....women of my own generation....may have
> come to the conclusion that they married the pig.  Women of my
> generation didn't have the same equal rights enforced that women do
> now; marriage was expected, and not many of them bucked that tide.
> Today, young women have so many options that middle aged women (of
> today) didn't have.  And, it's surprising how many middle to old aged
> women are divorcing.  Perhaps their lives are less bitter after the
> divorce.

Talking about pigs is a bit rich coming from you Hyerdung.
BTW do you still crawl about naked on the floor with dog food spread on your
back
in the hope that your DOG get's lucky.

MCP




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