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echo: pol_inc
to: Richard Webb
from: Dan Ceppa
date: 2009-05-29 17:38:58
subject: Using What Works

-> On 29 May 09  10:38:30, Richard Webb got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: Using What Works

 DC> The title sounds familiar...  Was he ever a guest on The Daily Show
 DC> or  The Colbert Report?  That's where I get a lot of my book
 DC> reviews!   


 RW> WOuldn't know, as I don't have a television so don't watch
 RW> either.  I get my news from NPR or shortwave radio.  I don't do tv
 RW> news even. Haven't owned a television now for over a decade and don't
 RW> miss it. 

Though those shows are satire, I do believe I get a more accurate view 
of mst stories from them.  I go into withdrawl when they are on vacation!  


 DC> the local  community gets lost in the shuffle.  Everyone reads what
 DC> they want and  there ends up being little local debate on any item. 

 RW> Agreed, and nobody to do real investigative journalism,
 RW> because the corporates don't want it when they can do flash
 RW> trash and not jeopardize the bottom line by making
 RW> advertisers uncomfortable if their pet ox gets gored.  THe

The same hold true for the gvt's reasons.  They also push their agenda 
that way.  


 RW> blogosphere is not real investigative journalism because all these
 RW> individuals ooperating in isolation don't have the resources for
 RW> research, the scientific experts that can be called in, who want money
 RW> for their troubles, editors to clean up their work, etc.

People don't seem to miss it, though.  I'm not sure why, but I suspect 
that the younger crowd has been purposely weaned off of newspapers.  


 RW> a simple click of the mouse and a flick of the swithc your right to
 RW> know, and your right to question just got flushed, along with your
 RW> right to privacy. 
 
 DC> Sounds like what happens when my Windows system crahses, but on a
 DC> more  permanent basis. 

 RW> even more ominous.  tHey hijack that url you thought you
 RW> were pointing your browser at, and you never see the
 RW> content, but it looks similar enough to the way the site you wanted
 RW> looks that you don't even think.  IF the corporates and governments
 RW> have their way your free and open internet will be a thing of the past
 RW> rather soon.  CHina is beta testing it for 'em right now.

Information is the key.  Contolling content and feedback is what got 
this country to tacitly approve of the war in Iraq.  

 RW> IT scares me a bit that folks really don't want to consider
 RW> the issues of privacy, right to be let alone, freedom of
 RW> information.  these are interrelated issues.  THE only free
 RW> and open part of the internet that will remain when they get done is
 RW> the part that lets them look at what you're doing and put the big
 RW> picture together from all the little pieces of data about you.  THat's
 RW> the only open part of it that the authoritarians have an interest in. 
 RW> OTherwise what they want is good consumer wal mart shoppers.  Just shut
 RW> up and buy more shit, preferrably on credit.

With what money?  The real jobs are being farmed out.  They don't want 
to improve the lot of other countries' workers.  They want to lower 
our workers to foreign standards.  


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