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echo: philos
to: WILLIAM ELLIOT
from: GERRY NORMANDEAU
date: 1998-01-24 17:02:00
subject: Time and Again

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 >>> Richard Meic on Time and Again
 RM> The nature of time/space seems to contradict any theory of a beginning
 RM> to the universe.  Unless your the kind that would cop out and state
 RM> that time/space was made to _look_ that way .
 WE> Ancient universe:  Open space/time finite in extent, hence edges to
 WE> the world and a beginning or creation of time.
 WE> Newtonian universe:  Open space/time infinite in extent, hence no
 WE> beginning nor end but just infinite extension.
 WE> Modern universe.  Closed bounded space/time finite in extent and
 WE> without edges, thus extension in any direction will eventually return.
 WE>  Hence cyclic time.
 WE> Psychological universe.  My awareness of time extends backwards to my
 WE> birth and forwards to now with some glimpses beyond.
 WE> Conclusion:  time without beginning and end can be effected two ways; 
 WE> infinite time that always was and always will be;  cyclic time that
 WE> continually repeats. ... In no time at all time began for its time had
 WE> come.
 WE> ---
 Personaly I like the thought that time is only a concept that man has 
reated
to explain the mysteries of memory. Time does not exist in this universe. 
All things are simply movement through space. All mater is mearly changing 
form
and location. Now if want to use the argument of the speed of light and
time dilation. The old theory where there are two brothers one goes off
at the speed of light and comes back only aged acouple of years while his
brother has aged 100 years. The brother going the speed of light gains more 
mass and that slows time. This to me is not a temporal reaction it is 
the effect of gravity on the subatomic particals. They mearly move through 
space
at a diferent rate than the rest of the universe. This is a phisical 
henomena
not a tempral one. 
 Although I find is rather dificult to express my oinion using a language
based on time (Pasttence, present, future tence).
 Einstine said that time and space are so intertwined they are vertually one.
Why not just drop the time and keep the space?
 
 Gerry Normandeau
  Nexis@storm. ca
 
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