From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Rather extreme way of getting rid of Fox News, The WSJ and the Republican
Money on Wall Street


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:4391ea33{at}w3.nls.net...
> I'm positive Manhattan needs it.  Probably Boston.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:4391e926$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> No place "needs" it.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:4391e836{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > OK, maybe New Orleans didn't need it as badly as do Manhattan and
> Boston.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>> > news:4391e505$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> You disgust me sometimes...
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:4391dcbe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > If only we could get the storms to do to Manhattan
and Boston what
> they
>> >> > did
>> >> > to New Orleans.  A good washing is needed in more
places than just
> New
>> >> > Orleans.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:4391917c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> > As is usual, there is more than one side to
the global warming
>> > canard;
>> >> > the
>> >> >> > hysterical and the reasoned...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would name the two sides those that are
concerned and those that
>> > ignore
>> >> >> reality.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Look, I'm not really concerned about a degree or
two, that only
> cause
>> >> > plant
>> >> >> and animal habitat problems and we might have to
adjust where we
> grow
>> >> > food,
>> >> >> I'm more concerned about the immediate type
effects (the storms),
>> > that's
>> >> >> where the people get killed and that's where our
society has to
> spend
>> >> >> a
>> >> > lot
>> >> >> of money we don't exactly have right now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bob Comer
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Mark" 
wrote in message
>> >> >> news:43910f40$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:43910c22$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >>> Yes those areas are predicted to
rise in temperature 1 degree
>> > within
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>> next several decades or so.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> That's a *lot*, and no, it's not just
those areas, it's average
>> > global
>> >> >> >> temperature raise of 1 degree, that
means that the warmer places
>> > warm
>> >> >> >> even more than 1 degree because of the
offsetting cooler places.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We're not all that many degrees off
when the methane under the
>> >> >> >> ocean
>> >> >> >> starts melting, and that's VERY bad...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I dunno if it's really as bad as they want
you to believe
> (actually
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > remain sure it's not):
>> >> >> > ====
>> >> >> > http://www.techcentralstation.com/120205F.html
>> >> >> > In the December 1st issue of Nature
magazine, Harry Bryden and
>> >> > colleagues
>> >> >> > at Britain's National Oceanography Centre
report that the
>> >> >> > Atlantic
>> >> >> > meridional circulation (also known as the
thermohaline
>> >> >> > circulation
>> >> >> > (THC) -- the density driven current that
carries warm surface
> water
>> >> >> > northward and returns colder deep water
southward -- has slowed
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > 30
>> >> >> > percent between 1957 and 2004.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The significance of this finding is
difficult to assess in light
> of
>> >> > other
>> >> >> > recent observations.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Climate model simulations estimate that a
complete shutdown of
>> >> >> > the
>> > THC
>> >> >> > would result in a cooling of Europe of 4§C
or more. So, shouldn't
> a
>> > 30%
>> >> >> > slowdown have some noticeable impacts, such
as a pretty sharp
>> >> >> > cooling
>> >> >> > trend?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Just two days before the Bryden results
were published, a report
>> >> >> > from
>> >> > the
>> >> >> > European Environment Agency detailed all of
the ills that Europe
> has
>> >> > been
>> >> >> > facing recently because of how warm it has
been, and prominently
>> >> >> > proclaimed that Europe's four hottest years
on record were 1998,
>> > 2002,
>> >> >> > 2003 and 2004. And yet, how many breathless
news stories, like
>> >> >> > the
>> > one
>> >> > in
>> >> >> > London's Guardian, played the Bryden paper
as reflecting a
> long-term
>> >> >> > (read: anthropogenic influenced) trend in the THC?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Together, all of this points to a far less
clear picture about
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > state
>> >> >> > of the circulation of the Atlantic Ocean
than is generally being
>> >> > reported.
>> >> >> > On the other hand, if Bryden et. al. have
discovered a real
>> >> >> > long-term
>> >> >> > change in the THC, then this will in turn
change the paradigm as
> to
>> > how
>> >> >> > the THC relates to a huge host of climate
parameters --
>> >> >> > parameters
>> >> >> > that,
>> >> >> > at present, don't seem to be behaving like
they should if the THC
> is
>> >> >> > indeed slowing dramatically. Not often does
one anomaly break a
>> >> > paradigm.
>> >> >> > It happens -- but rarely.
>> >> >> > ======
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As is usual, there is more than one side to
the global warming
>> > canard;
>> >> > the
>> >> >> > hysterical and the reasoned...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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