-> On 27 May 09  07:02:12, Earl Croasmun got back to Bob Ackley 
-> Re: Re-reexamining Torture ...

 ~>  EC> ~> It's still waterboarding and it's still ilegal.  
 
 ~>  EC> You keep repeating that with no basis and without even indicating what
 ~>  EC> law.
 
 ~> You can start with:  "Excessive bail shall not be required; nor
 EC> excessive fines
 ~> imposed; nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

 EC> It is sort of sad that Ceppa needs help from others to substantiate
 EC> even his most basic of claims.  But the constitutional law on the

One of these days you'll afford to buy a clue.  By then, the price will 
have risen and you'll still be back at square one.  

 EC> eighth amendment is a bit more specific than that.  Interrogation is
 EC> not used for the purpose of punishment of past crimes.  There is a
 EC> whole string of cases allowing a variety of things to be done to
 EC> prisoners if they have a rationale that is not
"punishment."  There are
 EC> various laws that restrict what can be done to a person in custody.  In

And the constitution covers that.  Or, are you trying to say that torture
isn't punishment because they weren't convicted?  If so, you really should 
have been on W's legal staff,  He would have loved your line of 
mis-reasoning.  


... Dick Cheney: An actively evil and sociopathic person.
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