HI DAn,

On Mon 2037-May-25 04:22, Dan Ceppa (1:138/666) wrote to Richard Webb:

 RW> evidence.  I want to hear from the folks who ordered this
 RW> what they really got, and not some platitudes about "we
 RW> stopped another attack" because that's not a provable.  What did you

DC> No one seems to understand the efficacy of polar bear charms
DC> employed  in the Fiji Islands.  They are definitely working quite
DC> well...   


MIssed the reference on that one, maybe I"m dense .

 RW> day.  THose breaking and bending do their own equivocating.
 RW> BUt, people the world over are told they should expect
 RW> better from the good ol' U. S. of A.  AT least, that's the
 RW> myth in the storybooks .  wE all know better I'd think.

DC> The myth used to somewhat real.  It's been trampled on a lot in the 
DC> last 8 years. Statements such as. "It's just a goddamned piece of 
DC> paper!" sure didn't help any. 

THat's for sure.  BUt yet, here again consider the example I used of the
illegal bug.  ASk those folks who do that
bugging and they'll tell you they kept major amounts of that bad dope stuff
off the streets of American cities by taking
out a major distributor.  SO the method to get the goodies
to do the deed was illegally obtained.  "Can't make an
omelet without breakin' a few eggs ya know ... "wink wink
nudge nudge.  Nobody at the courthouse knows it happened,
wink wink nudge nudge.  "I didn't see anything like that did you?"


Only thing is these guys didn't keep it low key enough to
pull it off.  THEy basically told the world they did it and
if you don't like it then there's the middle finger salute
for ya.  sO fine, finish off with your middle finger salute
and tell us what you really and truly got for your trouble.
Be real men, quit with the plattitudes about unprovable
future attacks and tell us how many qaedas you really took
out of action with the information you illegally obtained.
OToh if you ordered it MR. CHeney and you didn't get lots of provable
goodies for your trouble then you're an
international criminal.  IN that case, they're called war
crimes bud.  But, war crimes or not, I think a lot of
average middle AMerican folks would cheer you on nonetheless if they think
you really got something for your trouble, and for dragging the name of the
United STates through the mud.
BUt, it's all just a goddamned piece of paper, and we'll do
whatever we want.

THen again, we all know how it really goes.  This stuff
happens all the time in war.  WIthout modern methods of
communication though we don't hear about it.  In bygone days these things
only happened when the red cross workers left
the camp, etc.  NOw some doofus can't resist capturing it on video for the
world to see, or taking pictures.  IF you're
really gonna pull something like that off you should really
make sure there's no paper, or tape, or bits and bytes
trail.  sMall conspiracies with no bracktrail are the best
conspiracies.

Abu Ghraib would have never come to the world's attention if not for some
soldier with a camera.

Just one more layer of ineptitude and lack of control from
the axis of ignorant.  tHey did so good that they've driven
the TAliban into Pakistan to take over that country.  sMooth move!!!

Regards,
           Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+