-> ~> Just heard about a eastern right-wing talk radio type volunteered  to
be
-> ~> water-boarded, convinced that it wasn't torture...and lasted 6
seconds 
-> 
-> The video is on-line, and it looks pretty clearly like he was set up. 
The
-> procedure was more like the Spanish Inquisition version than the CIA
-> version.
I do not understand what the different 'versions' are or were or the
efficacy of the 'Iron maiden' etc...
 
 The guy doing it put a cloth over the radio clown's EYES instead
-> of over his mouth and nose!  He then poured water down the nose, and the
-> radio guy (who was doing it because he LOST a contest, and who expressed
a
-> desire to quit BEFORE any water was poured at all)
(I didn't know that :-)


 was stupid enough to
-> have his mouth OPEN while that was happening.  He wound up taking in
water
-> through both the nose and the mouth.

You would disapprove of that.

  That is a lot different from the CIA
-> taking care to cover the nose and mouth so that NO water is ingested.

The moral purity of the CIA...is, I dare say, questionable.


  The
-> CIA also used people who were trained in how to do the procedure safely
and
-> effectively.  The guy doing it laughed afterward, when asked a question
-> about the procedure, and admitted that he was a "rookie"
who had never
done
-> this before!
->  
There always has to be a first time...as well as an 87th...
Still, it seems to be a pretty good anti-torture 6 seconds...

Torture has always been with us, a part of us, in all climes in all
nations...it seems we will never out grow it. I certainly wasn't when it
came to military service, but when it comes to torture, I am a
'conscientious objector'...
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