Hey Carol!

Aug 01 18:05 05, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 CS> Yeah, those powder drink ones in a cup are terrible.  The canned 
 CS> stuff i am talking about is pretty decent.

I've never seen those and in fact this is the first I even heard of them. 
Interesting.

 CS> I figured we had a mis-match someplace.  Right now, I'm chilled as 
 CS> the sweat is drying out of my hair from walking home.  It's 39C and 
 CS> sprinkling rain a bit most of the day.  You could handle it, but 
 CS> you'd take a bit of time to adapt just like we all do.  I was pretty 
 CS> miserable the first year but after that it got easier.

I guess so.  Right now I'd have problems adapting to where I came from.  I
shiver just thinking about it even on 'hot' days.  It never used to be that
way and often I worked in temps below or around -30C.  Beats me how I
survived that since I seriously doubt I could now.  I don't miss those days
at all.

 CS> Grin, we have those except you have to suck on the tube (it isnt 
 CS> automatically sent into your mouth).  They are called 'camel backs' 
 CS> and are authorised in uniform due to the heat while on the ship or 
 CS> the pier.  The standard model has a wide mouth so you can fill it 
 CS> with crushed ice or small cubes then add water.
 CS> Looks like a small backpack and holds I think (visual clues) slightly 
 CS> less than 1.5 litres?

Sounds like something along the lines of what I was thinking except I'd go
for a larger model.  1.5 litres is around the size of a large plastic pop
container and I can easily suck one of those back in short order on a hot
day.  I think about 10 litres made out of lighweight insulated material
would be more in line.  A tad heavy when filled but it could go the
distance if I were dealing with above 30C temps all day.  It would get
lighter fast enough methinks.

 CS> Oh I think ours are slightly above freezing most of the time but it's 
 CS> close to it.  3-5C perhaps?  I havent been home in winter this past 
 CS> year (was in the Gulf) so have to trail back memories for actual 
 CS> numbers.  We are just at the edge of the snow line but the ground is 
 CS> normally too warm for it to stick or freeze.

Here I think it is mostly due to being on the Pacific Ocean that regulates
the temperature moreso then land temps.  The funny thing about the major
storm this past winter that dumped all the wet snow on us was that it
originated in Hawaii.  Weird to associate snow with Hawaii but that is what
we were told.  The few nights that storm occurred were hitting close to
-10C.  That doesn't happen often.

 CS> I think we are slightly under that with the rare cold snap that can 
 CS> take us to -10C (rare event).

Same here.  It has been known to happen though but like you say rare.

 CS> Ah here folks commonly bicycle to work in all seasons so the drivers 
 CS> are used to it and watch out well.  It helps that the bikers also 
 CS> keep their eyes out and follow the rules of the road, stopping at 
 CS> stop signs and all that.

Asia is good for that.  With oil prices being what they are perhaps NA will
tune into that ideology.  I'd go along with that without complaining.  Too
many idiotic drivers around these parts with HUGE honkin' SUV's that they
need like I need one.  What a total waste of money methinks.  Beats me who
that impresses but I doubt anyone with half a brain.

 CS> Yup.  I have several changes of clothes for biking, weather dependant 
 CS> and pretty much the sweater HAS to be underneath or the wind chill 
 CS> will remove all effectiveness of it.

Exactly.  A waterproof outer layer is required around here else the
insulation gets wet and doesn't do it's job.  It is survivable most of the
time.  Out in the open water is a totally different story though and there
I'd need a couple layers of insulation along with the waterproof outer
layer.

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