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Hello Roger - 

>> I'm supposed to learn ASP but have been stalling. Originally
>> I was told to get up to speed on Perl then they decided ASP
>> would be better. 

RS> The new version of ASP, ASP.NET, is a vast improvement over
RS> the previous version. I worked with it on my previous job. 

To be honest I don't really know what '.NET' is. It appears to
be some combination of an IDE, 'Visual[pick your language]',
CVS, and a VM all rolled into one. I'm probably not
understanding the descriptions I've been reading of what it is
supposed to be. 

RS> I was able to whip out some really neat SQL Server front
RS> end apps in just days with it. If I had some time to really
RS> dig-in and learn it I'm sure I could get that time down to
RS> hours. If you have someone who is going to spring for
RS> VS.NET don't hesitate to take advantage of it! 

I've been beaten down by the 'too old' that is prevalent the
past decade (or more) and no longer expect to recover time lost
learning every new 'trick' that flows down that pipe (work). I
don't fight to avoid the 'new', I just don't go looking for it
anymore. ;-) 

BS>>> Unlike most folks, though, I typically use cgi with
BS>>> compiled applications rather then with Perl or some other
BS>>> interpreter. 

RS> From what I am seeing it looks like the whole world is
RS> leaving CGI behind in favor of PHP. 

If by 'whole world' you refer to the younger members, probably.
The young people I deal with lack the focus to learn C or (god
forbid) ASM. 

>> I would have better luck with C code than Perl, I don't like
>> Perl. The Perl interpreter seems less of a 'threat' to those
>> offering to store webpages on their servers than a compiled
>> C binary would be. :-) 

RS> I haven't used Perl. I have always been able to get any
RS> text processing done using sed and AWK (usually sed alone),
RS> and since I am already comfortable with the pair I haven't
RS> felt the drive to learn Perl. 

I jumped at AWK as soon as I discovered that it existed and
found that few others had made the 'jump'. Apparently
installing AWK on Microsoft servers is not a common practice
hence my use of Perl. Perl is a mongrel language IMO that just
annoys me to even see the code much less work with it.
Necessity drives me ever onward. :-\ 

Never really liked SED either though. Reminds me of EDLIN too
much. 

RS> Of course everyone reading this knows that C can handle ANY
RS> text processing requirement ;-) , though a BIT[1] more time
RS> and work may be involved. 

RS> 1) Pun optional :-) 

Young admins seem to either think compiled C binaries are an
attempt to takeover their servers or that they have a 'sucker'
they can over-charge for the privilege of using C binaries on the
server. Either way it puts me back to Perl or ASP. 

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