From: "Phil Payne" 


"Ellen K."  wrote in message
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> From a secular political standpoint, the establishment of a state where
> Jews could be guaranteed entry was unfortunately proven necessary by the
> Holocaust.  Even the United States turned away refugees fleeing the
> Nazis.

Because it refused to pay the per capita charge the Nazis wanted to levy.
Have you never read the Wannsee Protokol?

> In view of the fact that the people who are today screaming that
> the Jews took away the "Palestinians'" (in quotes because
there were no
> "Palestinians" then) land did not scream when Hitler was exterminating
> 6,000,000 Jews, it's difficult to attribute their current position to
> humanitarianism.

I wonder ho wmany people actually knew the  Holocaust was going on at the
time?  And, if they did know, what would they have been ABLE to do about it
over and above the life-or-death effort they were making to defeat the
Germans at the time?

> Another inconsistency (to be polite) in the statements of the
> anti-Israel people is that these are the same people who would rightly
> say it is wrong to have residency restrictions based on race or
> religion, e.g. preventing black people from living in certain
> neighborhoods, but support the position that no Jews should be living in
> the land of Israel.

I've never heard anyone say that.  I HAVE said - and I still believe - that
there will be no peace in the Middle East while Israel exists.  You only
have to look at the numbers.  I believe that a careful and controlled
dismantling of the Jewish state and its replacement with a secular state
that confers rights of residency and free worship on everyone - Jew,
Muslim, Christian, etc., while the opportunity remains is the only way
forward.

Otherwise Israel's enemies merely have to wait until the US is emasculated.
Historically, that is at some time inevitable.

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  Phil Payne
  http://www.isham-research.co.uk
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