From: "Rich Gauszka" 

That's right Mark I forgot the the Bushies have redefined torture flights to
'may have made mistakes'. At least Rice *ordered* the man released for this
*mistake*

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/12/bush-denies-us-rendition-for-tort
ure.php

Continuing her visit to Europe. Tuesday US Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice nonethless conceded [official transcript] in a press conference with
new German Chancellor Angela Merkel [official website] that the US
government may have made mistakes in its battle against terrorism:
"Any policy will sometimes have mistakes and it is our promise to our
partners that should that be the case, that we will do everything that we
can to rectify those mistakes.". Rice did not saywhat mistakes the US
government may have made, but specifically declined to comment on Khaled
el-Masri, a German man captured in Afghanistan and held for five months
until he was released under then-National Security Advisor Rice's direct
order [JURIST report]. Again, Reuters has more


"Mark"  wrote in message
news:439610c5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> "Bush Lied(tm)"
>
> The new (well same old actually) liberal approach: tell a lie, repeat,
> stir, repeat, stir. You have no proof he ever lied Rich and you have no
> proof of torture either, but just keep saying it, until enough sheep fall
> in line...
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:4395ec99{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Nope -  Unlike FauxNews this is an expose of the ongoing machinations
>> perpetrated by the Bush/Cheney regime of sadism
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:4395e638$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Just one more example of a news media that is indifferent to harming our
>>> war
>>> effort and their efforts to undermine and harm their own country.  Just
>>> one
>>> more example of former and disgruntled liberal (rather harm their
>>> country
>>> than help it) CIA and State Department bureaucrats making illegal use of
>>> confidential and classified information in the form of selective leaks
>>> and
>>> distortions to try and manipulate the political process in an
>>> extra-constitutional manner.
>>>
>>> I find these reports very disturbing.  Just not disturbing in the way
>>> you
>>> intend.  They are disturbing further evidence of a cabal of CIA and
>>> State
>>> Department bureaucrats seeking by illegal and extra-constitutional means
>>> to
>>> subvert the electoral processes of this country.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:4395bfc1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Unfortunately the Bush/Cheney torture machine is still finding
>>>> countries
>>>> willing to house it
>>>>
>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1375123
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dec. 5, 2005 - Two CIA secret prisons were operating in
Eastern Europe
>>> until
>>>> last month when they were shut down following Human Rights Watch
>>>> reports
>>> of
>>>> their existence in Poland and Romania.
>>>>
>>>> Current and former CIA officers speaking to ABC News on
the condition
>>>> of
>>>> confidentiality say the United States scrambled to get all
the suspects
>>> off
>>>> European soil before Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
arrived there
>>>> today. The officers say 11 top al Qaeda suspects have now
been moved to
>>>> a
>>>> new CIA facility in the North African desert.
>>>>
>>>> CIA officials asked ABC News not to name the specific
countries where
>>>> the
>>>> prisons were located, citing security concerns.
>>>>
>>>> The CIA declines to comment, but current and former intelligence
>>>> officials
>>>> tell ABC News that 11 top al Qaeda figures were all held
at one point
>>>> on a
>>>> former Soviet air base in one Eastern European country.
Several of them
>>> were
>>>> later moved to a second Eastern European country.
>>>>
>>>> All but one of these 11 high-value al Qaeda prisoners were
subjected to
>>> the
>>>> harshest interrogation techniques in the CIA's secret arsenal, the
>>> so-called
>>>> "enhanced interrogation techniques" authorized
for use by about 14 CIA
>>>> officers and first reported by ABC News on Nov. 18.
>>>>
>>>> Rice today avoided directly answering the question of
secret prisons in
>>>> remarks made on her departure for Europe, where the issue of secret
>>> prisons
>>>> and secret flights has caused a furor.
>>>>
>>>> Without mentioning any country by name, Rice acknowledged special
>>>> handling
>>>> for certain terrorists.
>>>>
>>>> "The captured terrorists of the 21st century do not
fit easily into
>>>> traditional systems of criminal or military justice, which were
>>>> designed
>>> for
>>>> different needs. We have had to adapt," Rice said.
>>>>
>>>> The CIA has used a small fleet of private jets to move top al Qaeda
>>> suspects
>>>> from Afghanistan and the Middle East to Eastern Europe, where Human
>>>> Rights
>>>> Watch has identified Poland and Romania as the countries that housed
>>> secret
>>>> sites.
>>>>
>>>> But Polish Defense Minister Radoslaw Sikorski told ABC Chief
>>>> Investigative
>>>> Correspondent Brian Ross today: "My president has
said there is no
>>>> truth
>>> in
>>>> these reports."
>>>>
>>>> Ross asked: "Do you know otherwise, sir, are you
aware of these sites
>>> being
>>>> shut down in the last few weeks, operating on a base under
your direct
>>>> control?"
>>>>
>>>> Sikorski answered, "I think this is as much as I can
tell you about
>>>> this."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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