From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Gee who realized Macedonia was part of the battlefield.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:43961771$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Hey we only allegedly held him for 5 months.  That's nothing in government
> time.  I say he assumed the risk for choosing to be present at a
> battlefield
> during war time.  Shit happens in war, if you don't want shit happening to
> you then stay the fuck off the battlefield.
>
> Pretty simple eh?
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:43961517$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> That's right Mark I forgot the the Bushies have redefined torture flights
> to
>> 'may have made mistakes'. At least Rice *ordered* the man released for
> this
>> *mistake*
>>
>>
> http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/12/bush-denies-us-rendition-for-to
rture.php
>>
>> Continuing her visit to Europe. Tuesday US Secretary of State Condoleezza
>> Rice nonethless conceded [official transcript] in a press conference with
>> new German Chancellor Angela Merkel [official website] that the US
>> government may have made mistakes in its battle against terrorism: "Any
>> policy will sometimes have mistakes and it is our promise to our partners
>> that should that be the case, that we will do everything that we can to
>> rectify those mistakes.". Rice did not saywhat mistakes the
US government
>> may have made, but specifically declined to comment on Khaled el-Masri, a
>> German man captured in Afghanistan and held for five months until he was
>> released under then-National Security Advisor Rice's direct order [JURIST
>> report]. Again, Reuters has more
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:439610c5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > "Bush Lied(tm)"
>> >
>> > The new (well same old actually) liberal approach: tell a lie, repeat,
>> > stir, repeat, stir. You have no proof he ever lied Rich and you have no
>> > proof of torture either, but just keep saying it, until enough sheep
> fall
>> > in line...
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:4395ec99{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> Nope -  Unlike FauxNews this is an expose of the ongoing
machinations
>> >> perpetrated by the Bush/Cheney regime of sadism
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:4395e638$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>> Just one more example of a news media that is
indifferent to harming
> our
>> >>> war
>> >>> effort and their efforts to undermine and harm their
own country.
> Just
>> >>> one
>> >>> more example of former and disgruntled liberal
(rather harm their
>> >>> country
>> >>> than help it) CIA and State Department bureaucrats
making illegal use
> of
>> >>> confidential and classified information in the form
of selective
>> >>> leaks
>> >>> and
>> >>> distortions to try and manipulate the political process in an
>> >>> extra-constitutional manner.
>> >>>
>> >>> I find these reports very disturbing.  Just not
disturbing in the way
>> >>> you
>> >>> intend.  They are disturbing further evidence of a
cabal of CIA and
>> >>> State
>> >>> Department bureaucrats seeking by illegal and
extra-constitutional
> means
>> >>> to
>> >>> subvert the electoral processes of this country.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>>
>> >>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>> >>> news:4395bfc1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>>> Unfortunately the Bush/Cheney torture machine is
still finding
>> >>>> countries
>> >>>> willing to house it
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1375123
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dec. 5, 2005 - Two CIA secret prisons were
operating in Eastern
> Europe
>> >>> until
>> >>>> last month when they were shut down following
Human Rights Watch
>> >>>> reports
>> >>> of
>> >>>> their existence in Poland and Romania.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Current and former CIA officers speaking to ABC News on the
>> >>>> condition
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> confidentiality say the United States scrambled
to get all the
> suspects
>> >>> off
>> >>>> European soil before Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice arrived
> there
>> >>>> today. The officers say 11 top al Qaeda suspects
have now been moved
> to
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> new CIA facility in the North African desert.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CIA officials asked ABC News not to name the
specific countries
>> >>>> where
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> prisons were located, citing security concerns.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The CIA declines to comment, but current and
former intelligence
>> >>>> officials
>> >>>> tell ABC News that 11 top al Qaeda figures were
all held at one
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> on a
>> >>>> former Soviet air base in one Eastern European
country. Several of
> them
>> >>> were
>> >>>> later moved to a second Eastern European country.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All but one of these 11 high-value al Qaeda
prisoners were subjected
> to
>> >>> the
>> >>>> harshest interrogation techniques in the CIA's
secret arsenal, the
>> >>> so-called
>> >>>> "enhanced interrogation techniques"
authorized for use by about 14
> CIA
>> >>>> officers and first reported by ABC News on Nov. 18.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rice today avoided directly answering the
question of secret prisons
> in
>> >>>> remarks made on her departure for Europe, where
the issue of secret
>> >>> prisons
>> >>>> and secret flights has caused a furor.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Without mentioning any country by name, Rice
acknowledged special
>> >>>> handling
>> >>>> for certain terrorists.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "The captured terrorists of the 21st century
do not fit easily into
>> >>>> traditional systems of criminal or military
justice, which were
>> >>>> designed
>> >>> for
>> >>>> different needs. We have had to adapt," Rice said.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The CIA has used a small fleet of private jets to
move top al Qaeda
>> >>> suspects
>> >>>> from Afghanistan and the Middle East to Eastern
Europe, where Human
>> >>>> Rights
>> >>>> Watch has identified Poland and Romania as the
countries that housed
>> >>> secret
>> >>>> sites.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But Polish Defense Minister Radoslaw Sikorski
told ABC Chief
>> >>>> Investigative
>> >>>> Correspondent Brian Ross today: "My
president has said there is no
>> >>>> truth
>> >>> in
>> >>>> these reports."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ross asked: "Do you know otherwise, sir, are
you aware of these
>> >>>> sites
>> >>> being
>> >>>> shut down in the last few weeks, operating on a
base under your
> direct
>> >>>> control?"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sikorski answered, "I think this is as much
as I can tell you about
>> >>>> this."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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