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to: John Fraser
from: arah
date: 2007-03-25 07:08:30
subject: Re: Which is the True God?

From: "arah" 

My dear John Fraser

Thank you for your reply, but I still does not understand what Jesus trying
to tell us in Matthew 5:17-20


17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I
have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth,
until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least
stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything
is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least
of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called
least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these
commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you
that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the
teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-20

Let me share what the Quran said about Jesus


Lo! The angels said: "O Mary! Behold, God sends thee the glad tiding,
through a word from Him, [of a son] who shall become known as the Christ
[32] Jesus, son of Mary, of great honour in this world and in the life to
come, and [shall be] of those who are drawn near unto God.  Al-Imran (The
Family of Imran) 3:45

" Near unto God" not physically nor geographically, but
spiritually. Compare this with
Mark 16:19-  After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into
heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.

Almost all Christians have misunderstood this verse as well as many others
in the Bible. They imagine the Father (God) sitting on a throne- a
glorified chair- and His "son", Jesus sitting on His right hand
side. Can you conjure up this picture? If you do you have strayed from the
true knowledge of God. He is no Old Father Christmas. He is a spiritual
Being, beyond imagination of the mind of man. He exists, He is real, but He
is not like any thing we can think of or imagine. In the Eastern language
"right hand " meant a place of honour, which tje Holy Quran more
fittinggly describes as - " IN THE COMPANY OF THOSE NEAREST TO
GOD."


Jesus is the Christ, and he is the WORD which God bestowed upon Mary. Again
Christian reads into these words a meaning which they do not carry. They
equate the word " Christ" with the idea of a god incarnate, and
the word of God to be God.

My dear John Fraser

Do you agree with me?

Now how about this,

And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and
it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's
friend.-James 2:23

Since the bible said that Abraham is God's friend so can we imagine that
God is just like Abraham?

May God show us the right path and save us from the hellfire

AMEN



On Mar 25, 6:13 am, "John Fraser"  wrote:
> Good evening Arah;
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> "arah"  wrote in message
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> news:1174747874.959540.179120{at}o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > My Dear John Fraser and fellow Christians
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> > Kindly please explain what Jesus trying to tell us in Matthew 5:17-20
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> > 17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I
> > have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the
> > truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not
> > the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law
> > until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least
> > of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called
> > least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches
> > these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I
> > tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the
> > Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter
> > the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-20
>
> > Why Christians always complained the number of Muhammad's wives, but
> > they never   complaint  or question the number of Solomon's wives?
>
>     I wasn't complaining about Mohammed having more than one wife.  Because
> you raised the issue of contradictions, I was stating that a degree of
> confusion existed over how many wives Mohammed actually had.
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> > Let see what the bible said about Solomon wives
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> > 1 Kings 11
> > 1But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the
> > daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites,
> > Zidonians, and Hittites:
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> > 2Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of
> > Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto
> > you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods:
> > Solomon clave unto these in love.
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> > 3And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred
> > concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
>
> > So the number of Muhammad wives is nothing compared to Solomon. And it
> > is better to have more wives than becoming a Priest who are not allow
> > by the Christian to marry but force them to go to prostitutes or have
> > illegal sex  with other people wifves
>
>     Fair enough.  From the outset, God intended that a man have only one
> mate, or one wife.  There was never any intentions to give any man more than
> one wife.  Solomon had a concubine of wives because of his disobedience
> regarding that fundamental rule.  We can say that many of his wives were a
> result of trade bargaining, but he broke a fundamental rule as did his
> father, King David with Bethsheba.  He had her father killed so he would not
> impede the King's desire to marry his daughter.
>
>     Being unmarried has several advantages.  The big one is cost.  Much more
> effort and money is required to move a family as opposed to moving a single
> person.  Because marriage has been banned, celibacy is automatic.
> Fornication isn't an option.
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> > May God show us the right path and save us from the hellfire
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>     I concur.  May God's grace be made known by your heart.
>
> Cheers,
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