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from: Mike N.
date: 2007-06-21 06:39:02
subject: Re: Will the FBI contact you shortly?

From: Mike N. 

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:23:26 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote:

>Today the Department of Justice and FBI announced the results of an ongoing
>cyber crime initiative to disrupt and dismantle "botherders"
and elevate the
>public's cyber security awareness of botnets. OPERATION BOT ROAST is a
>national initiative and ongoing investigations have identified over 1
>million victim computer IP addresses. The FBI is working with our industry
>partners, including the CERT Coordination Center at Carnegie Mellon
>University, to notify the victim owners of the computers. Through this
>process the FBI may uncover additional incidents in which botnets have been
>used to facilitate other criminal activity.

   It's  a losing proposition - they have collected some good information,
but it's only publicising what many insiders already know - many people are
owned by someone else.

  So they notify people - I'll bet about half of these don't care. How
would they fix the problem?   Are they going to reload to get past the high
level rootkits?

  In the end, there must be some form of motivation for the end user to
want to get clean and stay clean.   Something like segregating the
internet: a clean internet and a dirty internet.     Anyone with a bot
would be automatically banished to the "dirty internet".     This is
obviously not a fully realistic plan, but the motivation must be something like this.

   In the end, the internet itself is not at risk from all these bots. It's
everyone's information.  The bad guys wouldn't want to take down the
internet - that's their source of income.

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