From: Gary Britt 

I've heard your 4th before, and maybe some of them believe that, but I
don't think so.  All studies so far indicate the way they are going about
this that it will be a net negative on social security of several trillion
dollars EXACTLY at the time that social security without these new people
is already predicted to go bankrupt (around 2040).

As to which is the first cause corruption or incompetence I could see
ordering that either way, but for I think its corruption first and
incompetence as the means by which they rationalize to themselves they are
not corrupt.

Gary


Mark wrote:
> Sounds about right to me, except I'd re-order the list with 2. first. and
> add a 4th:
>
> They are afraid to fix Social Security, so want a bunch more bodies paying
> into the system so they can ignore it until whatever time they get tired of
> working 3 days a week for a few hours a day for about 8 months a year and
> retire on their separate pension system.  last vote for an incumbent of either party>
>
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:46793ada{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Republicans who are for this are motivated by two or three principal
>> reasons.
>>
>> 1.  The lobbyists for big business and corporate agri-business and the
>> Chamber of Commerce representing medium and small sized businesses in
>> industries like construction, all of whom give these Congress critters
>> LOTS OF MONEY want the unlimited workers portions of the bill.
>>
>> 2.  They are fools and incompetent idiots.
>>
>> 3.  They think if they are not for this bill they will lose the hispanic
>> vote.
>>
>> Democrats are for it because these illegals represent another *victim*
>> group that they can buy votes from and get to vote illegally (and that's
>> not even counting the additional votes from dead illegal aliens).
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> John Beckett wrote:
>>> Gary Britt  wrote in message
>>> news::
>>>> They don't listen because they are either incompetent or corrupt
>>>> sellouts. I just got an email from one of my two senators
attempting to
>>>> justify his work on actively supporting this bill and
trying to lie me
>>>> into believing he and this bill are conservative and OK.
>>> What is the motivation for these politicians to support the immigration
>>> reform that you (and zillions of others, apparently) don't like?
>>>
>>> I suppose some percentage of motivation for a few politicians would be a
>>> feeling of behaving decently. I like that argument, but I've got pretty
>>> fatalistic about stuff like this - you have to draw the line
somewhere at
>>> who you're going to help in the world.
>>>
>>> New immigrants are a source of cheap labour (but illegals would be even
>>> cheaper, so I don't quite follow).
>>>
>>> I'm seriously wondering - what is motivating the Republicans on this?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>
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