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to: Rodney Rudd
from: Evan Langlois of 1:124/7028.0
date: 1995-09-25 23:47:52
subject: Re: Web browsing

EL> The 16 color thing looks awful, and you simply don't have the 
 RR>  
 RR> It looks fine for 16-color ANSI.  In fact it looks damn fine compared to 
 RR> the Herc mono monitor on my PeeCee.  My only point in brining it up is

 Get a new PC.  I'm using a green mono monitor now (I'm calling from
 my very own AT&T Mini-computer and a dumb-terminal as the root
 console).  I'd rather use a green mono than a 4x7 font or some damn
 flashing interlace screen.

 RR>  
 RR> My ST has been able to do fonts of all sizes and shapes for a long time, 
 RR> so I don't know what you're talking about there.  As far as good
 RR> graphics goes, that would have to be on a another screen (where you

 The point is that you can't scale fonts small enough to be readable in
 ST LOW.  The best you are gonna get is a single custom 4x7 - choosing
 a true-typ font just isn't gonna be readble.

 RR>  
EL>  I haven't found too much of a problem.  Don't download the graphics.
 RR>  
 RR> Uhhhhh... the graphics come to you automatically as part of the WWW
 RR> browsing process - it's not like you can shut them off.  Call up Toad's
 RR> web pages, for example.  All sorts of graphics all over the place.
 RR>  

 Actually, you CAN shut them off.  It's an option on every browser I've
 ever seen.  Somewhere in your set-up on your browser, there is an
 option to automatically display graphic images - uncheck it.  You
 will have to click on an image to see it once that option is turned off.
 Trust me - graphics are optional!

 RR>  
EL> go through. The T1 is fine for one or 2 users, but when you get 20 
EL> people feeding off the system, you get about 2Kbps bandwidth - so 
 RR>  
 RR> Try 20,000 people.
 RR>  

 Exactly my point.  The Web hasn't really gotten slower itself - but
 the Web has caused more users to access the internet through your
 network.  Your internet connection is probably through a T1 (56Kbps)
 leased line, and all data in or out of the internet has to be through that
 single 56Kbps line.  Divide 56Kbps by the number of people using internet
 services, and I think you'll find that a 28.8Kbps or even 14.4Kbps modem
 will give you more bandwidth.

 RR> computer club told me that the Atari 800 could not display 256 colors
 RR> simultaneously.  Then I wrote the assembly code that made it happen.
 RR> Wasn't impossible after all.  :)
 RR>  

 I must be getting old.  Hackery like that just doesn't impress me
 any more.  I'm not intereted in doing hacks.  It normally refuses
 to cooperate with any other program or OS version, and you just can't
 do real work with it.  Hackery is fine for a picture viewer, but
 I won't use it to get information off the net.  Like I said, I could
 care less about the pretty pictures - I just want information, and 
 sometimes that means spending an hour or two - and I don't want to
 read a 4x7 font for an hour just so I can look at a picture.  Lynx
 is very good at conveying that information very quickly without
 any sort of hackery.  You don'tget pretty pictures or fancy colors,
 but it does the job.  

 Lets get the job done first - and then worry about optional hackery
 to get things prettier.



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