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echo: srgames
to: Dave Toy
from: Dennis Haddox
date: 2003-07-10 12:17:00
subject: Re: Solar Realms Elite

-=> Dave Toy wrote to Dennis Haddox <=-
 
 DT>         Admit they are cheating in what way? By playing on more
 DT> than one board?
 
Yes.
 
 DT>         Were these problems all related to accusations of
 DT> cheating, and if so, in what way? Again, as far as people
 DT> playing on more than one board, I've only had one instance of
 DT> it, and the *only* reason I caught it was because the person
 
Then you are either very lucky or very ignorant.
 
 DT> was really stupid in choice of 'real names' on the two boards.
 DT> Without going into detail, they used the same last name on both
 DT> boards and the first name was altered by a single letter. :)
 DT> Dupe players is tough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, even
 DT> if someone admits to it. Hell, they could be admitting to it
 DT> JUST to raise a ruckus in the league. I might be way too
 
You are grasping for straws now. This logic does not hold water.
They do it because they know that they can get away with it. They
see that if anything is said that they will be protected because
the LC wants everything quiet and to appear to be running smoothly
no matter what is going on.
 
 DT> trusting, but I'm convinced 99.999999999% of all BRE players
 DT> and/or sysops are honest people.
 
You aren't serious are you? Seeing how Hard Drive Cafe has
been around for about as long as Hall of Fame, I can not fathom
how you can make that statement in all honesty.
 
It has been my observation throughout the years that people will
always try to find an edge to win and the edge most of the time
involves cheating to some degree. I have witnessed ways to
cheat in some games by players that were truly ingenious. 
 
As for sysops, yeah most are honest and most have so much
to do keeping their boards updated and running smoothly that
they do not have the time to bother with cheating. I have only
known of a couple sysops that would actively and diligently
cheat to keep their boards on top.
 
That is not the issue here though. The issue here is when
cheaters or ways that are being used to cheat are pointed
out, the LC begins a stream of lies such as you are the one
cheating or you were booted out of a league for cheating.
They find that an easier route than taking the time or using
the energy to investigate.
 
I asked Rob weeks ago when he said we were booted out
for cheating, what we did that was considered cheating.
He never answered. He never answered because we never
did any cheating and we weren't booted out, we left.  
Exposing cheaters and cheating methods are not wanted in
corrupt leagues such as 33 and 777 and the way they handle
it is lying. 
 
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