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Subject: Re: Howto connect ISP non-ppp ?
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Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:42:37 -0500
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> >I want to read my email with a non-ppp-capable [ x286 ] device.
> >The trace below shows what minicom sees when I dial in:---
> 
> >CONNECT 28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS
> >Checking authorization, Please wait...
> >username:2nm4nx6x@za
> >password:     <-- doesn't echo == OK
> >
> >cas4-rba>ls  <--- input tried= ls
> >          ^
> >% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
> >
> >cas4-rba>  <--- this is it's "echo/prompt"
> >
> >So now I need to findout what are valid inputs.
> >How do I start talking to the ISP ?

Clifford Kite wrote:
> Telephone the ISP and ask whether a normal user login is allowed.

They only know which M$ cartoon to click on.

> The ISP may be waiting for a menu command.  Try "ppp", "?", "menu", and
> "terminal" and see what you get from the ISP.  Even if none of them work
> you may get some insight into what the prompt expects.

Yes  Good, that got me started.  Here's my log, [but I still don't know 
how to access the mail server]:--------

Opened ...
|ATZ
OK
ATX
OK
ATM2D 3407501
CONNECT
CChecking authorization, Please wait...
username:2nm4nx6x@za
password:

cas6-rba>enable  <--- see menu below
password:  <--- I used my login password
% Access denied

cas6-rba>help
Help may be requested at any point in a command by entering
a question mark '?'.  If nothing matches, the help list will
be empty and you must backup until entering a '?' shows the
available options.
Two styles of help are provided:
1. Full help is available when you are ready to enter a
   command argument (e.g. 'show ?') and describes each possible
   argument.
2. Partial help is provided when an abbreviated argument is entered
   and you want to know what arguments match the input
   (e.g. 'show pr?'.)

cas6-rba>rlogin
% Incomplete command.

cas6-rba>telnet
Host: absamail.co.za
Translating "absamail.co.za"...domain server (168.210.2.2) [OK]
Trying absamail.co.za (196.36.73.245)... 
% Connection timed out; remote host not responding

cas6-rba>?
Exec commands:
  disable  Turn off privileged commands
  enable   Turn on privileged commands
  exit     Exit from the EXEC
  help     Description of the interactive help system
  logout   Exit from the EXEC
  ppp      Start IETF Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP)
  rlogin   Open an rlogin connection
  slip     Start Serial-line IP (SLIP)
  telnet   Open a telnet connection

cas6-rba>
cas6-rba>logout

NO CARRIER
---------------  end of log.
Previously some traces from the mail server indicated 'novell'.
But not lately.
But I guess that is irrelevant, since it's the OS that counts ?
I don't know enough about 'rlogin' and 'telnet' to know if they
would help get to my mail-box.

How should I proceed ?
Thanks for any advice.

== Chris Glur.