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From: Clifford Kite 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,fido.novell,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Howto connect ISP non-ppp ?
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:04:04 -0500
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news@absamail.co.za wrote:
>> > Clifford Kite wrote:

>> The only advice I can give is to give up attempting to by-pass PPP
>> and start trying to find an OS with PPP-capable networking that can
>> run on your i286 device.  Login at the menu didn't work, and neither
>> did the telnet and rlogin attempts to access the mail server, so it's
>> very likely that some kind of network connection will be necessary to
>> retrieve mail.
>> 
> Perhaps some one in the Novell group can tell me if/how I can access
> the mail server ?

Don't know, but it seems doubtful to me.  Try asking and see.

> It seems pointless to me to use ppp if the mail-server is right there 
> ayt the site ?

That's not likely anymore.

>> Clifford Kite                Email: "echo xvgr_yvahk-ccc@ri1.arg|rot13"
>  
> Thanks for the input.

> == Chris Glur.

> PS. here's some more of my log, which shows that the ISP obeys 
> me somewhat:-
> ...
> cas15-rba>ppp   <-- it responded to this
> Entering PPP mode.
> Async interface address is unnumbered (FastEthernet0)
> Your IP address is 0.0.0.0. MTU is 1500 bytes

> }#@!}!P} %}"}&} }*} } }#}$@#}%}&jZ__}'}"}(}"}1}$}%t}3}  <--- OK !!

Yes, that's a LCP Configure-Request.  It includes a request for pppd to
authenticate with PAP, probably using the same username and password that
allowed you to get this far.  According to some sketchy notes here, dating
back to perhaps 1996 (just before moving to Linux), Trumpet Winsock may
be able to accommodate PAP authentication.  But I don't recall actually
using PAP under Windows 3.1, only login/password.

Hopefully the ISP will also provide both an IP address for you as well as
it's own IP address during the PPP negotiations.  If it doesn't provide
an IP address for itself then you'll need to find a way to supply one
for it from one of the "private" network assignments (the "unnumbered"
in the response above worries me).

-- 
Clifford Kite                Email: "echo xvgr_yvahk-ccc@ri1.arg|rot13"