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echo: moderator
to: Dale Shipp
from: Roy Witt
date: 2008-03-05 13:59:52
subject: Moderators?

04 Mar 08 23:21, Dale Shipp wrote to Roy Witt:

 DS>  -=> On 03-04-08  10:55,  Roy Witt <=-
 DS>  -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Moderators? <=-

 DS>>   Of course he was -- and Ward entered his echo (ZCC_PUBLIC) into
 DS>>   Peter's Elist after BM listed it in Adrian's Elist.

 RW>> Which made no difference here.

 DS>   It would have made a difference if Ward had listed the echo when he
 DS>   started importing it into zone 1.

Wouldn't it have been better if the people who create these problems with
echoes, as in the echolist, not be able to do so? i.e. No moderator
listing, just the echo tag and a description to keep folks like you happy?

 DS>>  A
 DS>> considerable
 DS>>   fight eventually happened and the mail movers accepted that Ward's
 DS>>   version of the echo was the legitimate one.

 RW>> They actually had Adrian remove Moravisik as listed moderator and
 RW>> listed Ward.

 DS>   Not exactly -- Adrian allowed both listings to exist, for at least
 DS> a
 DS>   while.

Impossible...the elist software in use /didn't allow for dupe tags. Still
doesn't.

 DS>    I don't have archives of ELIST files, but BM might have
 DS> been
 DS>   removed by Thom some time later after listening to the evidence
 DS> when
 DS>   the dispute came up.

I think the solution was to carry Ward's echo under a different tag
name...Moravsik finally gave it up after traffic died out.

 DS>>   All of which could have been avoided if Ward had listed his echo
 DS>> from
 DS>>   the get-go, in either Elist.

 RW>> All of which could have been avoided if there was no elist around
 RW>> for people to steal echo tags.

 DS>   How?

Easy...no list, no chance of anyone stealing an echo tag...I don't
advocate how they did/do it in Z2 as it gives too much power to one
person. This may not be exact, but, they no longer have a list like this
one. Theirs is on the honor system and the only way to become a moderator
of an existing echo is to go through Ward or hold an election.

                R\%/itt



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