-=> On 03-05-08  13:59,  Roy Witt <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Moderators? <=-

 RW>> They actually had Adrian remove Moravisik as listed moderator and
 RW>> listed Ward.
 
 DS>   Not exactly -- Adrian allowed both listings to exist, for at least
 DS>   a while.

 RW> Impossible...the elist software in use /didn't allow for dupe tags.
 RW> Still doesn't.
 

   Sorry -- but you are wrong.   The relevant listings are below, all
   from ELIST805.TXT which was published on 23 May 1998.

 DS>    I don't have archives of ELIST files, but BM might have
 DS> been
 DS>   removed by Thom some time later after listening to the evidence
 DS> when
 DS>   the dispute came up.

 RW> I think the solution was to carry Ward's echo under a different tag
 RW> name...Moravsik finally gave it up after traffic died out.
 
  Nope, both BM and Ward entered the same multiple tags -- as you can
  see below. FWIW, the previous issue of EchoList (ELIST804.TXT) had
  only Bob Moravsik's pair of listings, entered on 4 April 1998.   Ward
  entered his into Peter's list six days later.  Only one of those tags
  was ever associated with an echo in distribution.

ZCC-PUBLIC
     International  ZCC  Conference
          General Echo for use of SYSOPS all over the WORLD.
          To communicate with the ZC's
          Rules are simple:
          1. Subject to FIDONET policy 4 (see section 9.9)
          as "if" MESSAGES were NETMAIL.
          2. Subject-any remotely ZCC oriented.
          3. Reasonable behavior in the networks.
          4. No geographic restrictions on links.
          any zone echopols are specifically rejected.
          5. Moderators asks routers to follow ECROC
          (freq from 1:2604/583)
          6. Barfaq of the mythical nab is specifically
          rejected.  ECROC overides !!!!!
          7. Zone policies are not followed, especially WARDPOL
     Origin:       ALL BACKBONES
     Distribution: Worldwide
     Gateways:     
     Language:
     # Nodes: 999      Volume: 126/W      Rules: FCCPUB.RUL
     Flags:   
     Moderators:   Bob Moravsik Trustee, 1:2604/583
     Moderators:   Zorch Frezberg, 1:205/0
     Moderators:   Henk Wolsink, 5:5/0
     Last changed: 17 May 98 by Bob Moravsik, 1:2604/583


ZCC-PUBLIC 
     Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference
          Crossposted messages from the ZCC-closed-conference. Intention is to
          give the individual nodes an insight as to what some of their ZCs
          are doing (or not), and if "yes" how they are doing it.
          Write-access only for current ZCs.
     Origin:       2:292/854
     Distribution: 2:254/60 1:396/1 1:170/400
     Gateways:     no
     Language:     English
     # Nodes: N/A      Volume: 15/week      Rules: -
     Flags:  
     Moderators:   Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
     Last changed: 10 Apr 98 by Ward Dossche, 2:292/854


ZCCPUBLIC
     International  ZCC  Conference
          General Echo for use of SYSOPS all over the WORLD.
          To communicate with the ZC's
          Rules are simple:
          1. Subject to FIDONET policy 4 (see section 9.9)
          as "if" MESSAGES were NETMAIL.
          2. Subject-any remotely ZCC oriented.
          3. Reasonable behavior in the networks.
          4. No geographic restrictions on links.
          any zone echopols are specifically rejected.
          5. Moderators asks routers to follow ECROC
          (freq from 1:2604/583)
          6. Barfaq of the mythical nab is specifically
          rejected.  ECROC overides !!!!!
          7. Zone policies are not followed
     Origin:       ALL BACKBONES
     Distribution: Worldwide
     Gateways:     
     Language:     
     # Nodes: 999      Volume: 126/W      Rules: FCCPUB.RUL
     Flags:   
     Moderators:   Bob Moravsik Trustee, 1:2604/583
     Moderators:   Zorch Frezberg, 1:205/0
     Last changed: 17 May 98 by Bob Moravsik, 1:2604/583


ZCC_PUBLIC 
     Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference
          Crossposted messages from the ZCC-closed-conference. Intention is to
          give the individual nodes an insight as to what some of their ZCs
          are doing (or not), and if "yes" how they are doing it.
          Will eventually replace ZCC-PUBLIC
          Write-access only for current ZCs.
     Origin:       2:292/854
     Distribution: 2:254/60 1:396/1 1:170/400
     Gateways:     no
     Language:     English
     # Nodes: N/A      Volume: 15/week      Rules: -
     Flags:  
     Moderators:   Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
     Last changed: 10 Apr 98 by Ward Dossche, 2:292/854


ZEC
     ZEC
          The ZEC (Zone EchoMail Coordinator) conference is an administrative
          echo designed to provide access to the Zone 1 EchoMail Coordinator.
          Current business is the election of a new Zone 1 ZEC.
     Origin:       1:1/200
     Distribution: on 01 May 98.  The following data lines are formatted as a
     Gateways:     
     Language:
     # Nodes: N/A      Volume: 100/Week      Rules: 
     Flags:  
     Moderators:   Bob Satti, 1:153/6
     Moderators:   Bob Kohl, 1:102/861
     Last changed: 01 May 98 by Bob Satti, 1:153/6


ZCC_PUBLIC
     International  ZCC  Conference
          General Echo for use of SYSOPS all over the WORLD.
          To communicate with the ZC's
          Rules are simple:
          1. Subject to FIDONET policy 4 (see section 9.9)
          as "if" MESSAGES were NETMAIL.
          2. Subject-any remotely ZCC oriented.
          3. Reasonable behavior in the networks.
          4. No geographic restrictions on links.
          any zone echopols are specifically rejected.
          5. Moderators asks routers to follow ECROC
          (freq from 1:2604/583)
          6. Barfaq of the mythical nab is specifically
          rejected.  ECROC overides !!!!!
          7. Zone policies are not followed
     Origin:       ALL BACKBONES
     Distribution: Worldwide
     Gateways:
     Language:
     # Nodes: 999      Volume: 126/W      Rules: FCCPUB.RUL
     Flags:   
     Moderators:   Bob Moravsik Trustee, 1:2604/583
     Moderators:   Zorch Frezberg, 1:205/0
     Last changed: 17 May 98 by Bob Moravsik, 1:2604/583


                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)

                  Co-Moderator, National Cooking Echo


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