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> They can crash it. Someone has already shown how a netmail packet can be > dropped on any system that might be in a route and the netmail will be > sent to the system intended. No session or packet password required. Yeah, one of the things I've started to notice with modern Fidonet is the relatively lax security model. Back in the day, there was long distance to contend with, and your average Joe probably wasn't going to go calling around to other systems far away to cause trouble when it was on his dime. Local pranksters would be easier to track down. And caller ID came into the picture eventually as well. But internet connectivity for Fidonet made it a whole different ball game. The inherent nature of Fidonet, with direct sending of netmail to other nodes and things of that sort, means most systems could be capable of receiving mail from anyone. There's no way that I'm aware of that's currently implemented to ensure that a netmail (or echomail for that matter) is truly from who they say they are, name or node or path or whatever else you want to go by. Binkd supports passwords, but a.) you don't know who's actually using them, and b.) that really only prevents them from receiving mail packets, not uploading it. What a particular system does with insecure packets is completely based on the configuration of that particular node. Basically, Fidonet suffers design flaws in similar ways to how IPv4 does (which the internet currently still manages to function with). Neither were originally meant for the environment that they would eventually function within. Everyone played by the honor system when they were created. And while the internet is of course a lot different than Fidonet in terms of the sorts of users it sees, it took the internet being exploited before they started trying to implement safeguards. They have the eventual solution of moving to IPv6 (whenever that actually happens), but I don't know if anyone is discussing Fidonet's future yet. Of course, trying to implement any big change of Fidonet arguably doesn't make it Fidonet anymore to some, and I know plenty of people around here aren't fond of change, so I really dunno what the solution is when it comes to that aspect of it. --- D'Bridge 2.98* Origin: FyBBS (1:229/500) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 14/300 34/999 53/558 90/1 116/901 120/228 123/500 134/10 140/1 SEEN-BY: 222/2 226/0 236/150 249/303 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 320/119 396/45 633/104 260 262 267 285 712/848 800/432 SEEN-BY: 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 2905/0 @PATH: 229/500 426 123/500 261/38 633/260 267 |
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