KV> I wouldn't call spheres of blood blood.  I know that mature themes don't 
 KV> necessarily involve porn.  I am into mature games for 
 KV> the humor, excessive, 
 KV> violonce and gore, and occassional naked chick :P .  They're great for
 KV> relieving stress.  
  Actually, more than anything what you describe as "mature" is actually 
quite juvenile.  It's no different than frying hamsters in the microwave or 
being an obsessive 14-year-old who really thinks he has a shot at getting a 
Playboy girl.
 KV> I wouldn't consider Goldeneye a 
 KV> mature game. All it is guys
 KV> shooting other guys and watching them fall over and 
 KV> disappear.  Kids do it all
 KV> the time. I've seen 4 year olds pretend to be commandos 
 KV> and pretend to shoot 
 KV> each other and die.  
  But how many toddlers do you know say this: "okay, we have to install a 
modem at this computer terminal.  Cover me, and use your silenced PPK - we 
don't want to attract attention."  Just because people aren't bleeding 
profusely in exaggerated death sequences doesn't make it childish.
 KV> Extreme is one of the crappiest 
 KV> racing games I have ever 
 KV> played.  All it is tunnel racing.  Nothing to be wild about.
  Do you like ANY good games?  I'm sure you think Doom is the worst game of 
all time at this rate, ditto Final Fantasy VII.
  Oh, and Wipeout XL was largely tunnel racing too.  But then, according to 
you, that's nothing to be wild about.
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